In article <dcvqgt$l99$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>,
rh@nospicedhamexelsys.com says...
>
> I sell VOIP ethernet phones and have spoken to people at computer fairs etc
> I have to agree with a lot of what you say, for the every day person in the
> street VOIP as it is now is a toy, in that it is nice to have but is not
> needed, call charges with people like sipgate, voipfone etc are not lower
> than 18866.com
> and with deals lile that offerered by NTL its hard to recoup back any money.

My phone provider gives me a decent deal and I have saved so much over
the last 12 months compared to when I was using BT.


>
> However how I see benefit of VOIP is to offering services which you would
> not normally think of doing with BT
> For example if you have a busy house with lots of teenagers who want to use
> the phone, its very cheap to have a couple of sipgate lines running
> so there is always a free phone in the house.

It is only myself here, and I doubt the cat would want to phone
anywhere. But I can see your point.

>
> If you work from differeent sites and want to keep the same local phone
> number without have a redirection to the other sites or your mobile its easy
> to do.
>
> Living/working in spain and don't want people to call international to speak
> to you, get a UK SIP account...free
>
> Starting your own business and want a high power PBX system but don't want
> to pay a fortune for kit which is out of date as soon as it is installed
> use a virtual PBX or Asterisks.

I can also understand that,



> There is lots of things that can be done other than just trying to save
> money on call costs
>
>

Maybe, but I can not see many people bothering with it, apart from peple
who are interested in that sort of thing.