Ivor,

It's weird how the majority of posts about sipgate are about how crap their
service yet you are bent on defending them. Their support is attrocious and
everyone knows it. Their service works "most of the time" but it can hardly
be classified as "reliable". My concern is that you give other readers on
this newsgroup a completely incorrect view of them.

You're the guy who also said "sipgate will come good" re an article by pc
pro which was pathetic. If you are not an employee then you must be an
investor of some kind.

Mike


"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
news:3lie73F12tm3uU1@individual.net...
> bence_fab wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > I don't usually post anything to these groups and usually prefer
> > just reading them but I have to say that in my opinion you are
> > either a very ignorant customer or simply a Sipgate employee. I
> > have seen your posts all over the place defending or arbitrarily
> > praising Sipgate.
>
> I am satisfied with their service. If you are not, fine, go elsewhere,
> nobody is stopping you..! If I want to defend them I will do so.
>
> I've said before, I am not an employee and I have no financial or other
> business interests in Sipgate. Believe me or do the other thing but I am
> simply a customer who is by and large satisfied with the service. Yes they
> have problems but so does everyone at some time or other.
>
> > I have nothing against Sipgate personally but I do have to say their
> > service is simply not up to scratch but your attitude is really
> > causing harm and misconception out there. There are plenty of good
> > providers in the UK alone and I am not going to mention any for
> > fear of being accused of favoritism. You are potentially harming
> > peoples attitude to VoIP with the position that a half-baked,
> > unprofessional communications service can be acceptable.
>
> If you consider it half baked and unprofessional that is your prerogative,
> nobody is forcing you to use it. If anything, it is your statement that
> they are half baked and unprofessional that could cause harm, causing
> people to bypass them without giving them a fair trial. If someone tries
> them and comes to that conclusion, so be it, but give them the chance to
> try for themselves.
>
> Like I said, there have been a few problems, but by and large I am happy
> with the service. Believe me or don't, I couldn't care less.
>
> > I may be victimising you here but in my opinion you're simply a
> > Sipgate employee using Google Groups to promote the service so no
> > level of criticism is too great....pathetic. If you're not an
> > employee, then take my advice, seek VoIP service elsewhere cause
> > there are plenty offering a usable service. If all you're worried
> > about is a free service, then get yourself two cups of plastic and
> > a string my friend.
>
> Firstly, please don't worry that you are victimising me, I have a thick
> skin and have taken much worse than anything you can give out.
>
> Secondly I have used Google Groups once in my life, when I was on holiday
> in the USA, so where you got that one from is a mystery to me.
>
> Thirdly, I do not need or want your advice.
>
> Lastly, I am very happy with my service and don't need your advice to go
> elsewhere.
>
>
> Ivor
>
>