On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 15:40:54 -0500, David Maynard <nospam@private.net>
wrote:

>Curious George wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 12:24:24 -0500, David Maynard <nospam@private.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>Yes, lots of ways to gain a hundred fold more than keeping a useless
>>>protocol and it's attendant burdens.
>>
>>
>> Don't let 'em suck you in. He thinks having the last word = being
>> right and he'll spend the next 3 week trying to wear you out.
>
>Kony and I get into debates from time to time and I have no problem with that.

As have I and many others. Problem is these things tend to degrade to
something much less than a "debate." Exchanging valid arguments is
one thing. Posting to repeatedly correct flawed arguments or to
simply hold ground regardless is something quite different.

>>>You've locked onto what you perceive as a 'benefit' but it is so limited,
>>>and of such little value to so few people, that it's like spending a
>>>hundred bucks to buy a penny. You can argue all day long about the 'value'
>>>of a penny, and "a penny saved is a penny earned," or whatever but it still
>>>isn't worth the hundred bucks.
>>
>>
>> That's just where he's coming from and he'll repeat it until your blue
>> in the face. He thinks a single transfer between two computers
>> somehow translates to "network" behaviour generally and regardless of
>> scale & management, etc. Hey WINS is also is a typical component of
>> these NETBIOS, NETBUI setups. Even more spending a dollar to save a
>> penny
>
>Well, let's not get too carried away here. What you described is akin to
>the point I'm making about the the over all value/cost of Netbeui, or lack
>of it, but Kony hasn't argued that part. He's stuck to the argument it's of
>'value' under certain circumstances, not 'universally'.

I think you're giving more credit than is due. AFAIK He has never
acknowledged ANY limitations of NETBUI that would limit its use to
"certain situations".

>What I find illogical is his apparent conviction that this limited 'value',
>if such exists, justifies the cost of continuing support; hence my penny
>for a 100 bucks analogy.

If M$ can indeed "force" anything they want on the market, and their
proprietary NETBUI is indeed superior than why not "force" NETBUI on
the market, esp the small network consumer market? Certainly the
answer is in the question. Yes support, including the already mind
numbing complexity of the products and features the company already
maintains, is indeed also a factor.