In article <5easr6F38kglvU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> George Graves <gmgraves2@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 10:19:25 -0700, ZnU wrote
> > (in article <znu-D7C0D6.13192525062007@individual.net>):
> >
> >> In article <1182766023.944929.238320@j4g2000prf.googlegroups. com>,
> >> zeez <UltimaUW@excite.com> wrote:

> >> Does anyone really see Nokia or Motorola or even Palm developing a
> >> platform that can match OS X? Creating and maintaining a
> >> desktop-class OS is not at all trivial. None of Apple's competitors
> >> really has any serious experience with it except for Microsoft, and
> >> Microsoft has its own problems.
>
> > Thing is, that it's about time somebody who KNOWS
> > how to do a user interface designed a phone.
>
> Sure, but MS does and the result isnt that flash.

You're trying to tell a Mac user that Microsoft knows how to do UI.

Their a little less clueless than the cell phone companies that have
never had to create UI for complex multifunction devices before, but
they're no Apple.e.

> There's a variety of user interface approaches that are possible with
> a device like a phone and its far from clear that what works with PCs
> is much use on a phone, particularly one that doesnt even have a
> keyboard or mouse.

True. Apple appears to have not made that mistake.

> > I have a very simple Motorola V190. It's just a phone. No music
> > player, no built-in camera, not even bluetooth. It is without a
> > doubt the most illogically laid-out interface I've ever seen
>
> Sure, but the same functionality Nokias are much better in that
> regard. The most I ever have a problem with is which top level
> menu a particular function that I hardly ever use like the timer is in etc.

Yes, among the cell phone vendors, Nokia does seem much better than the
competition when it comes to UI. Motorola is the worst among the
first-tier handset makers, probably.

But none of them come close to what Apple is doing with the iPhone. The
iPhone looks like one of those technology demos tech companies used to
put together about what things would be like in 10 years. Except it goes
on sale in four days.

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