ZnU <znu@fake.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> George Graves <gmgraves2@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> ZnU wrote
>>>> zeez <UltimaUW@excite.com> wrote

>>>> Does anyone really see Nokia or Motorola or even Palm developing
>>>> a platform that can match OS X? Creating and maintaining a
>>>> desktop-class OS is not at all trivial. None of Apple's competitors
>>>> really has any serious experience with it except for Microsoft, and
>>>> Microsoft has its own problems.

>>> Thing is, that it's about time somebody who KNOWS
>>> how to do a user interface designed a phone.

>> Sure, but MS does and the result isnt that flash.

> You're trying to tell a Mac user that Microsoft knows how to do UI.

Nope, just rubbing his nose in the fact that MS can improve the UI.

> Their a little less clueless than the cell phone companies
> that have never had to create UI for complex multifunction
> devices before, but they're no Apple.e.

I dont believe the ipod UI is anything to cream your jeans about.

Not really intuitive enough to be able to use without a manual for most.

Corse its arguable if that is even possible.

>> There's a variety of user interface approaches that are
>> possible with a device like a phone and its far from clear
>> that what works with PCs is much use on a phone,
>> particularly one that doesnt even have a keyboard or mouse.

> True. Apple appears to have not made that mistake.

We'll see...

The ipod and iTunes isnt that intuitive and that combination has
a hell of a lot more to work with UI wise, particularly iTunes.

>>> I have a very simple Motorola V190. It's just a phone. No music
>>> player, no built-in camera, not even bluetooth. It is without a
>>> doubt the most illogically laid-out interface I've ever seen

>> Sure, but the same functionality Nokias are much better in that
>> regard. The most I ever have a problem with is which top level
>> menu a particular function that I hardly ever use like the timer is in etc.

> Yes, among the cell phone vendors, Nokia does seem much
> better than the competition when it comes to UI. Motorola is
> the worst among the first-tier handset makers, probably.

Dunno, some of the Koreans are pretty obscene too.

> But none of them come close to what Apple is doing with the iPhone.

Sure, I was just commenting on that OS UI line. I dont believe its that relevant.

> The iPhone looks like one of those technology demos tech
> companies used to put together about what things would
> be like in 10 years. Except it goes on sale in four days.

Sure, like the ipod its certainly a significant advance.

They aint the only operation thats produced a decent UI with a
device that has just a touch screen tho, most obviously with the GPSs.