In article <5eb50gF37dnamU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> ZnU <znu@fake.invalid> wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >> George Graves <gmgraves2@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>> ZnU wrote
> >>>> zeez <UltimaUW@excite.com> wrote
>
> >>>> Does anyone really see Nokia or Motorola or even Palm developing
> >>>> a platform that can match OS X? Creating and maintaining a
> >>>> desktop-class OS is not at all trivial. None of Apple's competitors
> >>>> really has any serious experience with it except for Microsoft, and
> >>>> Microsoft has its own problems.
>
> >>> Thing is, that it's about time somebody who KNOWS
> >>> how to do a user interface designed a phone.
>
> >> Sure, but MS does and the result isnt that flash.
>
> > You're trying to tell a Mac user that Microsoft knows how to do UI.
>
> Nope, just rubbing his nose in the fact that MS can improve the UI.
>
> > Their a little less clueless than the cell phone companies
> > that have never had to create UI for complex multifunction
> > devices before, but they're no Apple.e.
>
> I dont believe the ipod UI is anything to cream your jeans about.
>
> Not really intuitive enough to be able to use without a manual for most.
>
> Corse its arguable if that is even possible.

It works very well for navigating large amounts of data on a tiny
screen. That's no easy task.

> >> There's a variety of user interface approaches that are
> >> possible with a device like a phone and its far from clear
> >> that what works with PCs is much use on a phone,
> >> particularly one that doesnt even have a keyboard or mouse.
>
> > True. Apple appears to have not made that mistake.
>
> We'll see...
>
> The ipod and iTunes isnt that intuitive and that combination has
> a hell of a lot more to work with UI wise, particularly iTunes.

I've never seen many complaints about iTunes UI. It's certainly a lot
more user friendly than what it replaced. If you'll recall back to early
2001 when it was introduced, the usual situation was that you'd use
separate apps for ripping, burning, organizing and tagging. And if you
had a music player, you were probably manually managing what songs were
on it from the file manager.

Apple stuck all of that into one app that had a single unified user
interface for the whole process.

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