Yes. I'm happy with my Sammy 'Sync' 3.5G (tethered 350 kbps up &
down), 2 Gig MP3 / WMA player w Bluetooth stereo headset, $125 on
eBay. Who NEEDS an iPhone? Not me.

SoCalCommie

"The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot
is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud
of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a
feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance
that leads to war." - Sidney J. Harris

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5ed5rkF35huihU1@mid.individual.net...
> ZnU <znu@fake.invalid> wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >> zeez <UltimaUW@excite.com> wrote
>
> >>> The iPhone looks like a nice peice of equipment, but the biggest
beef
> >>> I have with it is a lack of an SDK for 3rd party companies,
freeware
> >>> developers, etc. to write software on it that runs on the "bare
metal"
> >>> of the phone. This hardware has a hell of a lot of potential,
but
> >>> if Apple decides "no SDK", then it's little more than a pretty
> >>> device, and at the price it's being sold at, I expect more than
a
> >>> souped up V-cast style "teenybopper" phone. Personaly, I
wouldn't
> >>> buy it until an SDK is released for it.
>
> >> Me neither, but I realise I'm nothing like who its aimed at.
>
> >> Bet it will do as well as the ipod did, just because
> >> it integrates a decent phone with a media player.
>
> >> Tho plenty will already have one of those, so it remains to
> >> be seen how much effect being very late to market will have.
>
> > I wouldn't consider Apple to be "very late" to this market.
>
> More fool you. High end phones with all sorts of extra capability
> have been around for a hell of a long time now, years, literally.
>
> > True, some other devices that combine these capabilities have
existed for some
> > years. But the market for them has never really taken off and gone
mainstream.
>
> Yes, and it wont now, you watch.
>
> Most want a much cheaper phone that combines
> phone, media player, camera etc capability.
>
> And those who want to be able to do email etc mostly
> want a real keyboard, not a touchscreen one too.
>
> > Apple introduced the iPod into a market that was in a similar
state.
>
> Nope, nothing like it. You dont need much controls wise for a media
> player and the ipod design is rather elegant and well done in that
regard.
> And virtually everyone didnt already have a media player at the time
that
> the ipod showed up. Virtually everyone already has a cellphone now
and
> most of those already have a media player now too if they use one
much.
> Hordes of them have a media player/phone/camera combined already.
>
>