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Old 06-26-2007, 08:44 PM
George Graves
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Default Re: Apple's iPhone top choice to buy, survey shows

On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:24:42 -0700, Rod Speed wrote
(in article <5ed7fsF38dgilU1@mid.individual.net>):

> George Graves <gmgraves2@comcast.net> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>
>>>>>> OK, exactly what are iTunes' failings?

>
>>>>> Its not very intuitive when loading the ipod with mp3
>>>>> you already have on the computer for example.

>
>>>> Explain, please.

>
>>> I already did. Its much more intuitive for the ipod to appear
>>> as a drive and to use the normal file manager interface you
>>> are already used to than a special purpose app.

>
>> You can.

>
> No you cant by just plugging it in and carrying on
> regardless like you can with the competitive products.


Well not for music, anyway.
>
>> But what about playlists, and song titles and on video
>> iPods album art that's associated with the music?

>
> Any decent device does all that fine. And a hell of a lot
> more too, like the camera detail with cameras etc too.


What do Cameras have to do with iPods?
>
>> These things need a dedicated application to do.

>
> Wrong again.
>
>> It won't happen by moving files on the desktop.

>
> Never said a word about any desktop, and it works fine even if you do that
> anyway.
>
>>> iTunes doesnt even browse the computer's drive very intuitively.

>
>>>>> And what applications do those things better?

>
>>>>> Its rather more intuitive to just drag and drop those mp3s
>>>>> etc you already have to a drive which is the media player.

>
>>>> That's one option you have with iTunes.

>
>>> Not with the file manager you use for everything else.

>
>> Yes you can,

>
> No you cant by just plugging it in and carrying on
> regardless like you can with the competitive products.
>
>> it just doesn't arrange them very well, or allow you to
>> associate album art or liner notes with the music.

>
> Have fun explaining how come the computer manages that fine with mp3s etc.
>
>> iTunes facilitates all of that.

>
> So does the file manager when that stuff is already on the
> computer and you just want to dump it into the media player.
>
> Sure, iTunes is worth having for the stupids who dont use a file
> manager, but it should allow you to treat the device as just another
> drive, like all the other removable drives any computer sees.


Why do you assume that anyone who works differently than you work is stupid?
>
> Its fucked having separate apps like iTunes for every device
> because you cant use just one app for all the devices.


I disagree. I think it makes using these devices easier and that therefore it
empowers people with their computers. Or are you one of those people who
would rather the computer remain an arcane device usable and fathomable only
by the initiated and knowledgeable? Many feel that way, and I don't see where
such an attitude is very helpful or useful. If the automobile industry had
maintained such an attitude, we'd still be using hand cranks to start our
cars.


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