"Vanguard" <no@mail.invalid> wrote in message
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> "invntrr" wrote in message news:5LTji.289$475.237@trndny04...
> >
> > Is it possible to power up and boot from CD?
> > I have seen programs that claim access that way
>
> Yep. That's how you got Windows XP installed in the first place. There
> are lots of LiveCD distros for Linux. BartPE's CD is bootable. As
> Sebastian already said, if you permit physical access to the host then
> it can be compromised. Why do you think the server room at the company
> remains locked?
>
> > I personally know of a device that is able to overlap bios making it
> > possible to make a bios password useless

I should have said "I personally know of a device that is supposed to
overlap bios making it
possible to make a bios password useless"

>
> Since the BIOS runs first, no "overlap BIOS" program has yet run to
> obviate the action of the BIOS - that of requiring the system password.
> Booting from any device happens after the BIOS has already asked for the
> system password. BIOSes on daughtercards run after the system BIOS so
> they can't obviate the system BIOS, either.
>
> Name the purported BIOS "overlap" device so we know you really know what
> you claim to know.
>
What I Claim to know is you seem like a pompous ass and demand I tell you
anything.
Would you agree that most computer cases are locked?
Would you agree that many people leave the computer on ? Would you agree
most computers look for A ( allowing D drive to be accessed ) drive as a
bios default? If I were to pay lots of money for this alleged device, I
still need physical access to the computer
The answer to these questions would determine if
http://www.elfqrin.com/docs/biospw.html has any significance.

I feel (unlike you I have been wrong) that no data is safe. The amount of
expense and effort determines what value you place on your Data, and while
on the subject I bet this room you keep locked has a nickel and dime lock on
the door.
If a lock can't be cut ( a battery Dremel will do the job in 30 seconds) a
3"-4" hole saw on a portable drill is quick,,, but if I have already gained
access why not just rip the computer or at least take it to a different area
?
A computer case offers the same protection as a used condom. One of the
easiest things to do is remove the computers front.

What's my point? It is that if I want your system and am willing to pay
....it's mine.

What's a working parent willing to pay to keep his kid off MY Space?
What's the NSA willing to spend to keep it's security?
Many like you assume everyone has enough knowledge to be literate with
computers but in the real world there are millions of working,single moms
that still think computers will burn up if you just look inside ... forget
passwords ... to them it's another world. Most computer literate kids
know more then parents anyway.