As I and others have stated - "documented" fact.
You can certainly deny all you want. But, it doesn't change a thing

The FACTS stay the same.

Going 'round and 'round with you is absolutely pointless also.
What is WELL documented is the FACT that you do not seen to ever
see the actual truth on many, if not most occasions - at least in discussions
I've seen.

So, whatever.... twist and spin John - it proves nothing. Other than what
most here know - you ain't got a frickin' clue.


"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message news:dn5r939j4l1984g3pch4ar4h3ils791etg@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:46:10 -0700, "Ness_net"
> <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote in
> <mPidnWHn396dEADbnZ2dnUVZ_u-unZ2d@giganews.com>:
>
>>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message news:0qkq93pr2mer3ianeo4ri54h893dlc75r5@4ax.com...
>
>>> That's Verizon spin not fact. What undoubtedly actually happened is
>>> that Apple held a beauty contest that AT&T/Cingular won and Verizon
>>> lost, a big downer for Verizon.
>
>>It is absolute, very well documented FACT that VZW passed - first.
>>Many, multiple (unbiased, unlike you) reliable sources.
>
> Nope.
>
>>Certainly, YOU can believe what you want. Larry sure does.
>>But, it doesn't make it FACT - just a (flawed) belief.
>
> Facts can only be established with evidence, of which you have none.
> Hence, no facts.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>