In <13e5qc7bur97v18@corp.supernews.com> "Peter Pan" <PeterPanNOSPAM@AkamailNOSPAM.com> writes:

>danny burstein wrote:

>>
>> They're a perfect candidate for the T-Mobile

>Ummmm, you may want to rethink that part about "they are a perfect candidate
>for"... While cable DOWNLOAD speeds are usually very high, and can be shared
>with multiple users, the UPLOAD speed is usually very low/small (mine is
>12Mb down, but only 150Kb up!) two users doing VOIP stuff will slow the
>upload way down, three? probably undoable..... And how many of those kids
>will have the tmobile phones that do that?

Given that the choice is between the current cellphone
situation, which is not-at-all, as opposed to working
a modest amount (at least enough to get a call and then
head over to a wireline), this looks like the way
to go. Also, we should be able to do QOS and let the
phones grab the bandwidth from the web browsing folk.

(The APs from T-Mobile, which are rebranded, umm Linksys?,
have this built in.)

There are certainly problems, but ther eare options.

>When you talk about a camp setting, where does the power come from? What's
>the layout (terrain, foliage, weather in the area etc, do the cabins have
>metal snow roofs?)... I ran into a problem at my place in idaho, metal snow
>roofs, 32" of snow on the ground killed the fresnel zone, and during the
>summer, so much foliage from the trees, wireless couldn't penetrate from one
>building to the other)

The camp is in the Pa/NY/NJ border area, so yes, there
will be weather... but it's got adequate emergency power.

Again, I 'm not building anything out to the level of
a hardened milspec, but something that'll work in the
main portions of the camp reasonably well will make a
_huge_ improvement over what they've got now.

>You had talked about Running hard cables, what's the terrain like? flat?
>easy trenching? Or maybe Hills/rocks, clay, and tree roots in the ground
>(yuck!)

Flattish, soft soil. Many buildings actually have spare conduit
space between them.

Aerial cable runs would only be about 50 feet apiece so, aside
from concerns about lightning, etc., would be doable.

(I'd hope that WDS, as in the APple Extreme, would be
a simple drop in, but I'd sure like to hear from anyone
with experience, first).

Thanks.


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