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Old 10-15-2007, 10:45 PM
Ness Net
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Default Re: VZW to begin selling customer calling info

You are overreacting - as I said previously.
CPNI is STANDARD in the telecommunications sector.
You local phone company has to comply - just like VZW does.

Quit playing Chicken Little - the sky is NOT falling.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/busine...tml?source=rss

"But the fears of imminent advertising pitches for pizza or car insurance
were based on a misreading of a cryptic notice the cell-phone carrier has
been mailing all its subscribers."

"Under the Federal Communications Commission's rules, companies must allow
customers to keep their personal data, like information on who they called
and for how long, inaccessible to other parts of the same company. And
companies must periodically notify subscribers of that right with notices
like the one Verizon has been sending out."

"It doesn't mean we're providing data to third-party advertisers, and it
would be illegal to do so," Nelson said.




"Michael Wise" <no@spam.invalid> wrote in message
news:no-3D5993.15362615102007@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au...
> In article <0t-dnfVnC72sdI7anZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "Ness Net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>
>> You don't get it.... You are reading something into nothing...

>
> More like you are reading nothing into something.
>>
>> They are not selling anything - to anyone.
>> This is a periodic CPNI notice they are required to send out by the FCC.
>> Nothing more.

>
>
> If this is a periodic notice from VZW, then why is it the first time
> they've sent it?
>
> Does the FCC require them to "share" their customers' data with
> "affiliates"? What do you supposed "affiliates" will do with said data?
> Do you believe VZW is "sharing" such data with affiliates for free? Does
> the FCC require them to force customers to opt out from such low-brow
> tactics if they do not wish to be part of it? Does the FCC define opt-in
> as not responding to an buried-in-fine-print opt-out notice> How do you
> define opt-in? What do you suppose constitutes an affiliate?
>
>
> --Mike
>
>
>> "Michael Wise" <no@spam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:no-8E2EB6.10373015102007@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au...
>> > In article <iOKdnYjtEfMvW4_anZ2dnUVZ_ruqnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> > "Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> CPNI is VERY standard in the phone business.
>> >> It's been the law for a few years now.
>> >
>> > Yes, but sharing CPNI with "affiliates" without the consent of the
>> > consumer is not the law and is not (or at least, legally should not be)
>> > the standard.
>> >
>> >
>> >> You landline company does it exactly the same.
>> >> Probably worded almost identically as well.
>> >>
>> >> This is a NON issue.
>> >
>> >
>> > Then don't opt out. It's a non-issue to anybody who doesn't care about
>> > their information being unethically bought and sold for profit without
>> > their consent.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --Mike
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> > VZW sent out a letter dated October 12, 2007 to some/most/all their
>> >> > customers (I haven't received it yet) stating that they were going
>> >> > to
>> >> > begin sharing (selling) their customers' calling information to 3rd
>> >> > parties if their customers do not opt out of the process.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Many customers probably won't see this letter because they thought
>> >> > it
>> >> > was junk or a bill they already paid. We shouldn't have to opt out
>> >> > of
>> >> > having our calling information sold for profit (people should have
>> >> > to
>> >> > opt in if they want to). Unfortunately, this is simply the state of
>> >> > affairs in this country in an age where our information is
>> >> > considered
>> >> > an
>> >> > additional revenue stream to be bought and sold by all sorts of
>> >> > businesses.
>> >> >
>> >> > VZW claims they are doing this to:
>> >> >
>> >> > "better serve your communication needs and to identify, offer and
>> >> > provide products and services to meet your requirements..."
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > That's a steaming pile of you know what. They are doing it to get
>> >> > even
>> >> > richer off your private data.
>> >> >
>> >> > Other wireless carriers are already doing this, but I'm sorry to see
>> >> > VZW
>> >> > has now jumped on the bandwagon. If you value the privacy of your
>> >> > calling habits and don't think others should be profiting from
>> >> > selling
>> >> > information about them, I highly encourage you to opt out of this
>> >> > nonsense by calling:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 1-800-333-9956
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > This is VZW's automated system for opting out. If you have multiple
>> >> > lines on your account (e.g. Family Share), you can opt out all your
>> >> > numbers in a single call.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Please consider passing this information on to anybody else you know
>> >> > who
>> >> > uses Verizon Wireless.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > For more information on this, see:
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.rcrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...FREE/71012004/
>> >> > 1002/FREE
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > For a scanned copy of the letter VZW sent out, see:
>> >> >
>> >> > http://skydeck.com/downloads/verizon...pni_notice.pdf
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --Mike

>



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