Adding the Apple fanboy newsgroup so they can see why the people in the
mobile phone newsgroups are so annoyed at them.

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Oxford wrote:
>> I'm not, but I'm really sick and fucking tired of people posting all the
>> iPhone crap in newsgroups dedicated to CARRIERS WHOSE NETWORKS THE iPHONE
>> WON'T EVEN RUN ON.
> yes, steve... but you need to learn to deal with it. when Apple enters a
> market, it will take over that market.

And this is why Apple is forever doomed to be an "also-ran" in the
industry -- cretin fanboys like Oxford that so thoroughly annoy everybody
else that they PROHIBIT use of Apple products in their companies.

> do you use a PC? yes or you
> wouldn't be posting a reply. you have apple to thank for that.

Wrong. Apple did not invent the personal computer. I was around at that
time.

> ever used
> a font on a laser or inkjet printer? you have apple to thank for that.

Wrong. Apple did not invent laser or inkjet printers. For that matter, I
used laser printers in 1975, long before Apple existed. Quick, how many
people know what that printer was called?

> ever use the world wide web? you have steve jobs to thank for that?

Wrong. Neither Steve Jobs, nor Apple, invented the web. I happen to know
the inventor (who by the way is a European) of the web.

> you will use an iPhone or a cheap clone of it in 10 years, the iPhone
> makes all other cell phones obsolete.... so might as well learn about
> what we are talking about now.

Too bad for your predictions that the overwhelming majority of mobile
phone users have neither the slightest interest nor use for an iPhone or
any other doo-dad that does anything more than make calls.

Most people do not WANT to access the Internet from their mobile phone,
much less pay for an obscenely priced data plan to use an obsolete EDGE
network. Much of the mobile phone market is people who have el cheapo
phones on bare-bones plans.

> they are still cell phone companies and will be greatly impacted by the
> iPhone. Nokia is most at risk, expect them to fade away in 10-15 years.
> There is no way they can compete against Apple, they just don't have the
> resources to build fine quality, tiny phones.

You must be taking some fine drugs to have such hallucinations.

Tell that to the people who have had to have their iPhones replaced due to
cracked screens.

Tell that to the people in Japan who have 3G Nokia phones that in every
way are far superior of iPhone. There's a set of reasons why Apple
doesn't even try to enter the Japanese mobile phone market. One is the
lack of 3G. Another is that the Japanese already have much better.

> Ah, but the iPhone has only been out for 120 days and still in Version
> 1, there will be a series of about 20 more models over the next 5 years,
> so at some point you'll understand what we are talking about and join in
> the party. Until then, you can complain all you want, but the iPhone
> will grow and grow until it takes over the entire cell industry.

More likely, Apple will drop iPhone and exit the mobile phone market.

Everybody who could possibly want an iPhone has bought one. There's no
further market.

-- Mark --

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