"Maverick" <Sun@ranch.org> wrote in message
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> Oxford wrote:
>
>> Maverick <Sun@ranch.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>but the machine in 1974 wasn't considered a personal computer. and was
>>>>sold as a "kit", not a compete machine in a box like apple was first to
>>>>do.
>>>
>>>Wrong again. The Sol-20 was the first complete integrated micro. Check
>>>your history. It was sold as both kit and built.
>>
>>
>> too bad it never sold more than a handful. come on Maverick, step it up a
>> notch, you need to at least try.
>
> You don't even know who processor tech was then. They were the first...
> but overpriced and not that reliable. Bad management there. But they were
> the first integrated unit... and if you look closely, the Apple II was
> essentially a knock-off of the Sol. The Sol at least had a full keyboard.

Debating w Oxford is like trying to explain calculus to a duck.