Mark Crispin <MRC@CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote:
> > Edge is too slow to be useful for a number of tasks... IMHO, Jobs panned
> > 3G as being a power hog as the 'company line' for not including it... I
> > suspect the story behind the scenes is quite different.. Most likely
> > couldn't get past an engineering hurdle before they needed to launch
> > it.. but I am speculating..
>
> More likely, Jobs couldn't get a good enough deal on a 3G chipset. What
> he's selling in iPhone is a combination of slightly obsolete components
> (EDGE chipset, low resolution display) that he could pick up on the cheap.
no it's well documented that 3G chips run too hot/consume too much power
to be useable as of yet.
> >>> No GPS
> >> GPS might not yet be ready for the iPhone's level of needs.
>
> More like, Jobs couldn't get a good enough deal on a GPS chipset.
well, it's probably related to the upcoming spectrum sale, GPS doesn't
go through roofs / walls, but apple probably has a plan to get around
that so they are holding out for something better.
> >> Ah, I think you mean GREAT PDA functionality, Apple invented PDA's so
> >> this is just an extension of Apple's original dream.
>
> Apple most certainly did not invent the PDA. The Newton was a rehash of a
> Sharp product that already existed in the Japanese market. Sharp decided
> to go with its far superior Zaurus architecture instead (the first model,
> the PI-3000 was in 1994) and dumped the older stuff. Apple picked up the
> rights to the older technology for a song, changed the firmware, and
> called it Newton.
mark, you make everyone laugh with ignorance like that, Apple certainly
did create the first PDA, they even coined the term!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sculley
apple's newton even to this day is more advanced than most PDA's, apple
innovated hard on the PDA and still own plenty of patents that nobody
else can use for a few more years.
> Incidentally, Steve Jobs hated Newton (it was Sculley's project, not his)
> and killed it as soon as he had the chance.
correct. "i don't like scribbly things" is a well known quote... he was
back for about a year then when he cleared out all the old macs, the
newton went with them.
> Note that Sharp's 1996 Zaurus MI-10 was the first color PDA ever. I no
> longer have my Zaurus PI-3000, but I still have a PI-6000 and an MI-10.
yes, but those were crap compared to the newton.
> >>> No memory expansion..
> >> Ah, you are forgetting how iTunes works, syncing makes for little need
> >> for expansion when iTunes does this automatically.
>
> Undoubtably, Oxford will be singing the praises of the model that allows
> an external memory card.
well, you really don't need more memory when you have iTunes doing all
the syncing. Auto sync is a marvel, so having a fixed 8GB is about 4
times more than most smartphones so it's not a problem.
> >> VoIP is still in the formative stages. iChat does this now so it's only
> >> a matter of time before it can be moved to the iPhone. Apple tends to
> >> wait until the time is right, not push out inferior products before they
> >> are ready.
>
> More like, Apple missed the boat on VOIP and now can't get on board
> without having to pay a huge amount of royalties to someone else.
no, apple has had VoIP since the mid 90's, it's just when the time is
right is when Apple will enter. They don't rush things so it's better
for the consumer that way.
> > I use it all the time.. more so than the standard cell phone... Voice
> > quality is perfectly fine... Again, the reason was probably more
> > dependent on ATT not wanting the iPhone to circumvent their 'per minute'
> > plans than any view that VOIP is an immature technology..
>
> Another reason why iPhone is not 3G. Skype works fine on 3G, but not on
> EDGE.
yes, but you rarely on are on EDGE with an iPhone, it uses normal WiFi
so 90% of the time you don't need 3G.
> >>> Touch Screen?
> >> Yes, it's the best on the market.
>
> Tell that to a Nokia N800 owner who has a touch screen with twice as many
> pixels, or a user of a UMPC who has a touch screen with four times as many
> pixels.
yes, but the screen quality is poor on the N800, touch doesn't respond
well, you still have to use a stylus, no multi-touch so it's quite
worthless if you want a higher quality screen / more responsive touch
screen.
> You don't have to do all that zooming and unzooming if you have enough
> pixels.
in other words, Nokia doesn't have Core Graphics / Core Animation so
they are kinda stuck in the 90's compared to the iPhone / OSX.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_Animation
> > Like everything else, we will see.. Remember the Newton? The Lisa?
> > They were all visions of the future, Apple will show the world, etc...
>
> It'll be fun to watch the hew and cry and tearing of hair when iPhone is
> cancelled.
considering it's by far the best selling smartphone that won't happen
for 20-40 or more years. the UK and Germany come online in just 7 Days!
so there's another 500,000 that first month. the iPhone will be known as
the primary cell/smartphone people of the world use from here on out.
you can get ready here:
http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/easysetup/getready.html http://www.apple.com/de/iphone/easysetup/getready.html
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