Captin wrote:
> "kony" wrote:
> >On 2 Sep 2005 01:40:19 -0400, Captin
> ><DoNotEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> You said what I was thinking about data recovery issues. It's no
> >>time to play around if a persons not capable basicly.The beauty of
> >>forums is no matter how weird the challenge, theres usually
> >someone
> >>that can say
> >>"I've been there and done that and this is how I did it"
> >
> >That would be oversimplified, not the ideal it seems on the
> >surface because "usually" when there is a data recovery
> >need, all that can be determined beforehand is that the data
> >isn't accessible in the normal way it used to be, but WHY it
> >isn't, can vary, and so can the necessary steps to regain
> >that access.
> >
> >Different problems can have the same result, and using a
> >tool to combat the result instead of the problem isn't
> >always effective. If someone wrote that they deleted a file
> >or was infected by a certain virus, it might be clearer what
> >needs to be done. If they wrote that the drive simply
> >doesn't work right and they need the data, the time and
> >tools to do it will be a fair expense regardless of whether
> >that data is recoverable or not. Most often in this groups
> >we get posts about drives failing, not some user mistake,
> >and there is no data recovery software alone that makes a
> >damaged drive whole again.
> How much data recovery did you say you have done exactly?(JOKIN)
> I'd like to step back to what many refer too as "general hard drive
> failure"
>
> There are two sub categories if you like for general hard drive
> failure ..
>
> One is either no power or the short circuiting of power.
> Call me slow but I usually check this out first because without it
> even my brother who is a software junky is going nowhere if the drive
> is installed inside a PC without it.I would say that almost 50% of
> general failures belong here and the easy answer is to replace the
> controller board even if it is tempory to regain your data.
> It was posted that it is "Monkeys Work" to replace a board and I
> couldn't have said it better myself and don't see why people would
> suggest we need to pay $50 an hour to have that done if the average
> Joe can jump on a forum, get a few tips which make it easy for him.
> Maybe I will start a thread about controller boards?
>
> --

Even with monkey work, the monkey still needs to be trained. If you're
willing to spend the time, then I think it'd be great if you put some
of that knowledge online. Usenet isn't a good medium for that though.
Usenet is a good medium for debate, and usenet (at least when accessed
from the google archive) has no graphics or changes of font sizes.

Best way is a either a webpage, 'cos you can put graphics in there. Or
a Word Document - graphics can go there too.
Even if ther's no web or ftp server available to host the file, - and
you dont' have a computer free to use as a web or ftp server . (if you
have a comp free then it's very quick to set up) Then you can start by
just emailing the file to ppl in the newsgroup that are interested.
I'm sure somebody'll host it. There's a gap of knowledge that needs or
would like to be filled.

There are lots of sites that explain how to change a Hard drive. But no
sites I know of that tell you how to change the board of a faulty HDD.
(Even just for fun, with a high risk of breaking the drive!) I had
heard that if a smoke particle gets between the 'needle'(head?) and a
round thing(platter?) then it can cause damage.
So if the data was important, i'd be wary of even opening it up. But
it'd be fun experimenting at least, i'd start with low capacity drive
whose data isn't important.

I'm sure a lot of techies would enjoy that. Remmeber. It may be
monkey work. But the monkey gotta be trained!!!

It'd be interesting to nkow where you learnt your skill (changing
boards within a HDD). #cos an EE or even an ECE degree is 3 years! ANd
to be an electrician requires quite a bit of training too.

I call changing drives monkey work because of the form of diagnosis,
the logic of troubleshooting is monkey logic. Swapping things in and
out. In a conversation with an electrician, he said that they
don't diagnose boards for hours anymore with tools, finding faulty
capacitors. They change the board, he said it was monkey work. I saw a
parallel. He agreed.