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Old 09-06-2005, 04:29 AM
Feverish
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Default Re: Limited or No wireless connection

Oops no Channel 14, trying channel 11

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"Feverish" <feverish@NOcox.SPAM.net> wrote in message
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> Off line means No connection via wireless only. I cant hit the Connect
> button ( unless I disconnect first) since I'm connected but don't have a
> DHCP address. I have to repair or disconnect/ reconnect (which is what
> repair seems to do anyway,) One computer was online for about 15 minutes
> after a "repair" but then dropped off. Another computer was offline then
> suddenly was online for a while before dropping off. No problem with ISP
> since wired computers online 24/7.
> I do see neighbors wireless connections("Phoenix-house", "Dorsey" but no
> bars and we can't connect via their routers.)
> Pinged two of the wireless computers, one timed out and no data received,
> one sent back data packet, but is still "offline."
>
> Will change to Channel 14 (but I'm US)
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> "Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 22:01:34 -0700, "Feverish"
>> <feverish@NOcox.SPAM.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Off line about 36 hours now, straight.

>>
>> I have a feeling I'm reading this wrong. Does this mean that it fails
>> to connect every time you've tried it over the last 36 hours? Or does
>> it mean that you've been experiencing random connection failures over
>> the last 36 hours with occasionally successful connections?
>>
>>>Doesn't coincide with mealtimes,
>>>nearest microwave is downstairs in Kitchen, but doesn't seem to be
>>>related
>>>to MW usage. Commercials are boring, but not part of the problem. No
>>>cafeteria, no TIVO, no cameras, all phones are 5.4 Ghz.

>>
>> Ok, that eliminates most local sources of interference. Please note
>> that some models of 5.2GHz cordless phones use 2.4GHz on one
>> direction. I vaguely recall that it's the handsets that transmit
>> 2.4Ghz and receive on 5.2GHz but may have it backwards. Also, some
>> cordless phone bases transmit continuously, even when the handset is
>> in the on hook position. Pull the plug on the base and see if that's
>> the problem.
>>
>>>I do have a wireless
>>>mouse: Logitech MX700 now replaced with MX1000.

>>
>> I couldn't determine what frequency it's running on, but it probably
>> is not 2.4Ghz.
>>
>>>Can't answer re:Neighbors, only that we've never been able to eavesdrop
>>>on
>>>their conversations, one wireless network, occasionally picked up could
>>>be
>>>neighbor. Signal weak, and encrypted (not that means much in this setting
>>>that I know of.)

>>
>> If they're not broadcasting their SSID, you won't see any nearby wi-fi
>> access points.
>>
>>>Router is on streetside, but I've no choice in this matter.
>>>Channel is set to 9

>>
>> Channel 9 is roughly half way between channel 6 and 11. The wi-fi
>> signal is approximately 5 channels (25MHz) wide. If there are nearby
>> access points running on channels 6 or 11, you will get interference
>> from both. I suggest you stay with the recommended 1, 6, and 11 or 14
>> in the UK.
>>
>>>Power save on all cards turned off

>>
>> What about power save, hibernate, and standby on the computer?
>>
>>>How do I determine the "uptime" I can't find a setting/log for this?

>>
>> I'm using a WRT54G but with Sveasoft Alchemy firmware. My "status"
>> page shows the uptime. However, I guess you're using the official
>> Linksys firmware, which might not have this feature.
>>
>>>As far as I can tell neither router nor modem are spontaneously
>>>rebooting.

>>
>> Rebooting the modem would not cause a premature DHCP renewal. Only
>> the router can sometimes (not always) do that. Usually, it's the
>> client that asks for a new DHCP address. The reason I'm emphasizing
>> the possibility is that your symptoms of not getting a new DHCP
>> address after a connection drop do not make sense unless either the
>> client initiates the DHCP request, or the server (router) reboots.
>>
>>>Error message reads (paraphrasing) Windows could not repair your internet
>>>connection because it could not complete the following action. Windows
>>>could
>>>not renew the IP address. Please contact your system administrator

>>
>> That's the message you get when you select "Repair" from the right
>> click menu on the Windoze XP SP2 Wireless Zero Config icon. Is that
>> what you're doing? Repair does *NOT* mean re-connect. The correct
>> procedure is to "Show Available Networks", select your wireless SSID,
>> and hit "connect". Both Connect and Repair will attempt to renew the
>> DHCP address which apparently is failing for some reason.
>>
>> What else are you doing that you're not disclosing? From your
>> descriptions, I'm having difficulties guessing what you're doing, and
>> what's happening.
>>
>>>(that me,
>>>and I haven't kept anyone off as far as I can tell.)

>>
>> Could you explain what you mean by "drop off the network" as in your
>> original question? If it means loss of internet connectivity, are you
>> *SURE* that it's not a problem at the ISP, and that you're trying to
>> fix it with the WZX Repair feature? More specifically, does the
>> "limited or no connection error" happen *AFTER* you do something with
>> Windoze?
>>
>> "Here's the problem: all three periodically drop off the
>> network with the limited or no connection error. From time
>> to time they will just as suddenly re-connect, and work fine."
>>
>> Let's pretend that there's nothing wrong with the wireless and that my
>> guess as to decoding the symptoms and actions are correct. Next time
>> you have a good connection followed by all computers "dropping off the
>> network", try this experiment. Do NOT do the Repair thing:
>> Start -> Run -> cmd <enter>
>> ipconfig
>> Does it show a proper IP address? If yes, you don't need a new one.
>> If 169.254.xxx.xxx, then something caused the clients to demand a new
>> IP address. This would be rather weird and uncommon. My guess is
>> still a power save timeout at the client.
>>
>> Next, see if you can talk to the router with:
>> ping 192.168.1.1
>> If you get proper responses, your wireless connection is intact and
>> functional.
>>
>> Next try to ping the other computers on your LAN. They should be
>> 192.168.1.100 and up. Get the IP addresses with ipconfig in advance
>> so you're ready to try this. If you have a firewall in place, it may
>> prevent ping from working.
>>
>> Next, try to ping something on the internet. The obvious starting
>> place would be the gateway IP at your ISP to see if the cable modem or
>> Cox is down. However, that might change periodically. Grab the IP
>> address of the gateway from the WRT54G status page. Also ping some
>> common web sites such as www.yahoo.com. If that doesn't work, try
>> pinging them by IP address (you'll have to get the IP address when
>> it's working and write it down in advance). If that fails, go yell at
>> Cox support.
>>
>> The idea is to isolate what part of your connection puzzle is failing.
>>
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>> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
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