"kony" wrote:
>On 5 Sep 2005 14:42:17 -0400, Captin
><UseLinkToEmail@HardwareForumz.com> wrote:
>
>
>>There are two sub categories if you like for general hard drive
>>failure ..
>
>.... or we can call it 1: can’t get data
>.... or we can further sub-divide or distinguish them
>differently.
>
>>
>>One is either no power or the short circuiting of power.
>
>Not necessarily, it isn’t really so useful to generalize
>along a tangent like this but if you want to lump everything
>into a generalized "circuit board problem" category, that
>could be considered reasonable towards the end of replacing
>the circuit board.
>
> Kony, nobody worries to repair controller boards that I know of.
Even
>if it is possible it’s not worth spending hours on it anyway.
>Therefore it becomes immaterial what the exact fault with a board is.
>You could actually spend hours sometimes trying to work out the exact
>fault and still not know. It’s a printed circuit , if it’s
>faulty and it’s cheap throw it away.
>
>>Call me slow but I usually check this out first because without it
>>even my brother who is a software junky is going nowhere if the
>drive
>>is installed inside a PC without it.
>
>How do you "check it"?
>
>>I would say that almost 50% of
>>general failures belong here and the easy answer is to replace the
>>controller board even if it is tempory to regain your data.
>
>50% seems a rather arbitrary presumption, but even so, sure
>if you have a bad board and replace it with a viable board-
>replacing a bad subcomponent with a working one is an
>age-old practice
>I’m happy that at least you can see a little logic with
>replacing a controller board.You are not cheating anyone to use the
>age old practice of exchange. Anything to cut out needing a software
>genius I say
>
>
>> It was posted that it is "Monkeys Work" to replace a board and I
>>couldn’t have said it better myself and don’t see why people would
>>suggest we need to pay an hour to have that done if the
>average
>>Joe can jump on a forum, get a few tips which make it easy for
>him.
>>Maybe I will start a thread about controller boards?
>
>You claim "monkeys work", but then that you need more
>information. Threfore, you have classified yourself as
>having lower skill than a monkey for this task and
>therefore, for this task you should hire a "monkey" to do
>it.
> Kony, you are the person to diagnose drives as I think you called it
>" General failure". That’s fine 95% of the time. Simply install
>a new drive and move on. You said yourself that’s all your
>trained to do?
>
>What task doesn’t seem like mere monkey’s work if you only
>consider the easiest/obvious parts and then decide all you
>need is all the rest- the parts that aren’t so easy or
>obvious? What profession doesn’t have "easy parts"
>intermixed with the actual details, skills needed to get
>that job done? Certainly it’s not rocket science to swap a
>drive’s circuit board, but then rocket science must also
>have mundane issues as well as that part about "rockets".
>
>Sure, you can do almost anything if you pay attention to
>detail, if the information is available and you spend the
>extra time. If any of these factors are missing, you may
>have less satisfactory results and hopefully instead of
>doing something outside of your own profession, you could
>simply spend the time doing something you ARE skilled at,
>leaving those things you aren’t, to someone who IS skilled
>at them.
>
> I think many people cannot afford to pay for data recovery or their
>data is not that important.
> If you are talking to someone that cannot afford data recovery but
>their photo’s are very important then the person themselves
>might consider giving it a go themselves. I notice this forum has
>thousands of postings regarding hard drives? Lot’s that end up
>in a dead end
>
>Where does it end? I’ll bet most of the work you do every
>day is "monkeys work" except for those parts that aren’t!
>So why would anyone pay you to do that work if they can get
>someone who doesn’t know how, to do it cheaper? After all
>that other somone only needs the skills they don’t have that
>you do, right? Clearly we should just do away with all
>professions and be jacks-of-all-trades? No, in general that
>would result in a lower quality of life and specific to HDD
>data, your best course is to find a professional and pay for
>not only their obvious actions but the experience they have
>in dealing with the not-as-obvious details. However, when I
>write "professional" I don’t mean a general purpose computer
>technican.
>Business’s supply about 95% of work for data recovery people.
>Clearly the cost involved for many people is what rules it out.
>I think sometimes the internal failure of a drive gets much more down
>the Pro’s when drives are dismantled and reassembled in air
>tight rooms.
>
>That is, IF the data is actually valuable, which I contend
>it was not else you’d have backed it up already, this would
>be an implausable scenario to begin with, except if we
>consider someone thinking backups are "monkeys work" and
>that they know better. Apparently some things are best left
>to professionals.

Of course it depends on how valuable the data is. If you have a person
with many tears of family photos and can’t afford the Pro’s are you
suggesting they don’t try anything. I mean Pros’ start at around $500
Oh and guess what. They do not guarantee anything

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