On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 03:25:29 -0500, David Maynard wrote:

> Wes Newell wrote:
>> On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:58:17 -0500, David Maynard wrote:
>>>Wes Newell wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 05:49:42 -0700, neworder7 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>So does this mean i should be getting a 500w PSU or is a 400watt PSU
>>>>>fine.
>>>>
>>>>You should be getting the largest you can afford. And you can get 600W for
>>>>under $20, 550W for under $15, and 500W for about $12.
>>>
>>>And at those prices not a one of them will actually put out the stated watts.
>>
>> And neither will some name brand models that cost 5 times more,
>
> Just because you made it up doesn't make it so.
>
Sorry, unlike others, I only dissimnate facts. If you care to look it up.
There's reviews on either tomshardware or anandtech that I took this
info from. It shows that many name brand units wouldn't put up the max
output, with some even blowing up. So go look it up.

>> so what's
>> your point?
>
> The point was clear as a bell. The supposed 'watts' on the el-cheapos
> isn't what they'll do.
>
Some will, some won't. Just like name brands. It's really doesn't matter.

>> Hmmm.... I need 400W, so I buy a 400Antec that will put out
>> 400W for say $50,
>
> In other words, it does what it says.
>
I don't know if it will or won't. For this I just assumed it will. Are
yo7u doubting Antec?:-)

>> or I buy a 600W for $18 that will only put out 550W.
>
> Dream on. Not even close.
>
More guesswork I see.

>> Now which is the best deal?
>
> The one that does what it says because then you know what it does.
>
You sound like a 2 year old.

> Aint no savings at all if you have to buy a UPS just to keep your
> el-cheap PSU running.
>
I don't care if you have the cheapest PSU made or a $200 PC Power &
cooling PSU, running the system without a UPS is just plain stupid unless
you don't care about your system

>> That's muxh more important than a name brand PSU.
>
> Hogwash

It's not hogwash when you're doing a critical task and power fails and you
loose the data and maybe a few hundred hours work.

>> My cheap 600W that some name brand zealots predicted would be dead
>> within a year is now into the 18th month of 24/7 operation Both my
>> cheap PSU's for my K7 systems are still going after 5 years, and the
>> really cheap 400W in my current backup K7 system is still going after
>> about 3 years. if you want bragging rights, buy a name brand.
>
> Lucky you. Others aren't so lucky. Buy crap and gamble.
>
Luck has nothing to do with it.

> Not to mention I have a natural aversion to liars just on general
> principle, even if nothing else, and that includes folks who advertise
> B.S. Watts to sucker fools into buying them.

Well, at one point in time that would include almost all (if not all) name
brand PSU makers. Look up the reviews and you will see this.

Here's the most current, with 6 out of 19 name brand PSU's failing the
test.
http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20...sstest-28.html

So who's really dishing out BS?:-)

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