The Ghost of General Lee <ghost@general.lee> wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:55:22 -0700, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2007-11-28, XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you sure of that? There's no reason Verizon couldn't allow
>>>> GSM phones
>>>
>>> ...except that then they'd have to build out a GSM network.
>>
>>Wrong, read the entire post:
>>
>>"they probably already have some agreements with GSM providers to
>>use their networks"
>
> Those were your words, not words from the article quoted.

Right, so?

>>That's how they allowed roaming back before there was a complete
>>CDMA network, I wouldn't be surprised if some of those agreements
>>are still in effect and/or could be renewed and new agreements
>>made, the question is would it be profitable to do so?
>
> Right, roaming. Remember that for a second.
>
> To quote the original article, with emphasis added:
>
> "Verizon Wireless will break with the rest of the cell phone
> industry and become the first mobile operator in the U.S. to let
> customers use any phone on *ITS NETWORK*, the company announced
> Tuesday."
>
> Nowhere does it say they're going to allow phones to roam on any
> GSM network partners, or for that matter ANY partners. They are
> going to allow any compatible phone on *ITS* network.

Nowhere does it say they aren't. *ITS* network includes all the
carriers with whom Verizon has agreements, primarily Alltel but others
as well.

> Now, back to the original article, again with emphasis added:
>
> "The No. 2 U.S. wireless operator said that, by the end of 2008,
> its customers could use phones and other devices that they've
> purchased anywhere, ***as long as they meet certain standards.***"
>
> You can bet two of those standards will be, 1) it must be CDMA,
> and, 2) if it's a phone, it must be E911 Phase II compliant. They
> aren't going to rebuild/duplicate their network just so it can be
> used with devices they didn't sell.

You can bet, I won't take that one. Nowhere did I suggest they would
rebuild their network, they can use other's networks exactly as they
are doing now. If it's profitable for them to use other's CDMA
networks (and it is or they wouldn't be doing it) it may be profitable
for them to use other's GSM networks.

What I *will* be on is that if Verizon can make money doing it, they'll
do it.


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