You know, this is a very simple problem to understand. They own the
service and you want to use it. Use it under their, Verizon's,
conditions or go somewhere else. Also, if you want to discuss contract
law why would you do it on a Verizon news group?
Glenn

jl wrote:
> On Feb 15, 12:25 pm, The Ghost of General Lee <gh...@general.lee>
> wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:10:11 -0800 (PST), jl <jls1...@bellsouth.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am afraid you have not read for comprehension.
>> Hmm, let's see about that.
>>
>>> I never entered into
>>> a new contract.
>> He never said you did.
>>
>>> All I did was extend the old one by continuing month-
>>> to-month.
>> I think that's what Peter said. But technically, both of you are off
>> on this one. You can continue your *plan* month to month, but your
>> contract expires, hence the phrase used often here, "I'm not under
>> contract."
>>
>>> No new phone, no new contract, yet they insisted I sign a
>>> paper-writing which gave them new terms and new advantages.
>> You wanted the benefits of a new contract without actually having to
>> sign one. So what VZW said was technically correct, they won't extend
>> your *contract* if you change *plans*, but after your contract has
>> expired, there's no contract to extend. If you want a new plan, you
>> will have to sign a new contract. Not saying I agree with it from a
>> business standpoint, but that's the way it works. You probably should
>> have requested the plan reduction while your contract was still in
>> effect.
>
> Is there just one of you. Just one? Who understands contract law?
> I am now on month-to-month. I can cancel at any time and so can
> they. That is fine with me. So why should I sign an "Agreement," i.
> e., a contract, in order to reduce my minutes to 450 from 900, or in
> order to get and pay bills on the internet? In both cases, Verizon
> requires you to sign an open-ended document. WTF is that? I have
> already signed a contract with them, 2 and 1/2 years ago. It expired,
> so far as my two-year obligation is concerned. So why do I need to
> sign another "Agreement?" I'm not signing a goddamn thing, especially
> since the agreement requires me to submit to arbitration in the event
> of a dispute. I have already detailed for you, in more ways than a
> country boy knows how to get into town, the slick methods these
> sonsabitches have of adding bogus charges to your bill.
>
> And you know what? They're still providing services, despite my
> refusal to sign their unconscionable agreement. What does that tell
> you?
>
> Now, you take a hike too, my obnoxious little toady.
>
> Jeezus. What a bevy of pinheads! It's like my neighbor says, "I have
> to deal with Verizon because of my business, but they are a pack of
> rat bastards."
>
> BTW, he (and all his truckers) just went with AT&T. And I'm about to
> do the same. I have a friend in another part of the state who just
> went Alltel, after exhausting his patience with Verizonwireless. So
> far, he's very happy.