Bill Baka wrote:

> plenty900@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> It might be more complicated than this. They are said to have back doors in
>>> *standard protocols* (Linux included) [1,2,3,4] and these are hard to get by
>>> unless you are a security professional (I'm not). What about hardware-based
>>> hacks [5] (in which case "Intel" might be just an abbreviation)? Remember that
>>> they just need to sniff packets and then decrypt successfully in order to gain
>>> remote access.
>> Finally a mature response. I was beginning to think I was dealing with
>> 11-year-olds.
>
> If you don't think the NSA (or anybody else) gets into your computer,
> how about this, my experience so far. I used a torrent engine to
> download 'Dreamgirls' for my daughter. What I got was a crappy copy and
> a nasty e-mail from the MPAA police.


And this requires access to your computer about how far?

> About 30 years ago I got a visit from 2 FBI gorillas in $1,000 suits
> knocking on my door (at home, 8:00 P.M.) for a very minor infraction of
> FCC regulations,


And this requires access to your computer about how far?

> A few years back, like 2004 (I think) I was detained by both DHS and FBI
> agents on duty at Beale A.F.B. for riding my bike on a PUBLIC road and
> taking a few pictures with me 1.2 M Pixel fixed focus el-cheapo camera.
> Even after proving I was born here, 3rd generation, they held me for a
> local Sheriff to pick me up and take me straight home with the bike
> loosely in his trunk.


And this requires access to your computer about how far?

> They do it because they can.

They don't do it because they can't.