"Tinman" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
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>>> Sure. My friend works at a apple store. He see's it everyday. I've
>>> gone there to have lunch with him and he showed me over 50 of them
>>> waiting to be returned. When they ask why there returning them over
>>> half is battery life.
>>
>> Strangely enough, I believe both of you! ;-)
>>
>
> Don't be that naive, Todd. He only has his (make-believe?) "friend." Never
> any actual proof. Even Navas ain't that bad. He said, and I quote, "A
> phone with a battery life that sucks and won't last thru a day of use."
> That statement is bullshit. I am a very heavy user and have no problem
> making it through a day--and not down to 10% either.

I really meant I believe his point about battery life- not the actual
(ridiculous) numbers he throws around. I'm giving him "poetic license" to
exaggerate as to the figures.

His alleged imaginary circle of friends also includes AT&T store employees
as well, IIRC. He's apparently in a unique position to get supporting info
for his claims from both Apple and AT&T stores! ;-)


> Visit any iPhone forum--say everythingicafe.com--and see how many people
> are bitching about battery life. Very, very little--unless it's a true
> defect. Those kinds of forums breed complaints more than praise, so they
> should be overflowing with battery complaints (people don't pop in to say,
> "everything was peachy today!"). And give folks more credit: they don't
> need to have owned a smartphone before understand that they actually use
> the iPhone a heck of a lot more than their prior phone. That said most of
> the iPhone users I know did in fact have a smartphone previously, usually
> more than one.


I'm just making the point that user expectations vary- my wife, for example
is on her first Smartphone (a T-Mobile Dash WinMo phone.) While she loves
it, the first few months were rough- she was never a heavy phone user, and
constantly forgot to charge the damn thing because she came from phones that
you charged every weekend whether it needed it or not! I, on the other
hand, go back to analog "brick" handhelds that you not only charged every
night, but often "freshened up" over your lunch hour to be sure it made it
to the end of the day!


> Better yet next time you are by an Apple store see how many iPhones are
> being returned. Feel free to ask around. If you really feel gutsy ask
> about the Beaver's claim... if you don't mind getting laughed outta the
> store. <g>

I don't have to- the numbers speak for themselves- the satisfaction surveys
for the iPhone are higher than any phone ever surveyed. I wasn't agreeing
that massive numbers of iPhones are being returned; just that both battery
claims of the iPhone- stellar and poor, are probably valid, based on prior
experience and expectations.