"Dave Saville" <dave@nospam.deezee.org> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:47:28 UTC, "Flyer" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Flyer" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:WLCY7928BEE1@wilecoyote.org...
>> >
>> > "Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> >>
>> >> "Flyer" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:WLCY7917BDA1@wilecoyote.org...
>> >>>
>> >>> "Graham." <me@privacy.com> wrote in message
>> >>> news:frc8nc$9dn$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Flyer" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:WLCY7914BCB0@wilecoyote.org...
>> >>>>> Ok, I have a PAP2-UK from broadbandbuyer, very quick service I
>> >>>>> might
>> >>>>> add, and have configured line 1 for Draytel, and line 2 for
>> >>>>> Sipgate.
>> >>>>> With credit on both providers, the Sipgate works flawlessly, but
>> >>>>> with
>> >>>>> the Draytel I have outgoing ring ok, no incoming ring, and no audio
>> >>>>> whatsoever.
>> >>>>> I'd also like to use a single phone for both accounts, but trying
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> make sense of dial plans is giving me serious headaches!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> anyone point me in the right directionf or both queries, google has
>> >>>>> thrown up much, it seems Draytel with a PAP2isn't a common
>> >>>>> scenario.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> P.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The PAP2 is effectivly two ATA's in one box so you won't be able to
>> >>>> access both acounts through one port.
>> >>>> You should be able to point one half of the PAP2 to a Voxalot
>> >>>> account and put multiple providers into voxalot. Free for outgoing
>> >>>> calls, but you do need to buy "registrations" for your incoming
>> >>>> "lines"
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mysipswitch is a similar service, and is completely free, but I
>> >>>> haven't
>> >>>> been able to get it to work satisfactorily myself.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Guess it's a trip to Tesco's for another cheapo DECT fone ;-)
>> >>>
>> >>> P.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> Are you using STUN? I found out with voip.co.uk and Sipgate, I had to
>> >> disbale STUN and use the outobound proxy instead on Sipgate in order
>> >> to
>> >> elimnate these type or problems with the voip.co.uk account. You may
>> >> want
>> >> to try this.
>> >
>> > I dud have Stun set to "on", and I knew Draytel don't use Stun (but
>> > Sipgate do), so I turned it off, but alas it didn't make any
>> > difference,
>> > but thanks for the suggestion. Guess it's more fiddle with the settings
>> > time ;-) It's odd that I can call out on the Draytel line, but incoming
>> > calls get a voice message saying the number is unavailable. And
>> > there'sno
>> > speech on a connected outbound call..it's bugging me now ;-)
>> > I may just drop the Draytel, and stick with the Sipgate and put it down
>> > to
>> > experience.
>> >
>> > P.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Gotcha ! or, if you prefer, Eureka! sussed it. After ploughing through
>> various forums & faq's, found the suggestion to set Subst VIA Addr to
>> yes,and put my WAN IP in the Ext IP box, and voila, my Draytel
>> connection
>> now works perfectly ;-)
>
> Which means it was a NAT traversal problem. You either needed to go
> via a SIP proxy or a STUN server. I had a similar problem with
> voiptalk. Even though there is an active SIP ALG in the router and
> other providers worked direct they failed as you describe. Going via
> their proxy fixed it.
>

that line was set to use the outgoing proxy initially, using
nat.draytel.org:5065, but that didn't work.
I kept thinking it was a NAT issue, but the fact that the Sipgate line
worked, fooled me.

P.