On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:05:45 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> John Phillips <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I got mine off a Brisvegas ebay seller, no complaints and
>>>>>>>>>>>> better value than anyone else I could find.
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Roddles do you synch the diary etc. back to Outlook on your
>>>>>>>>>>> pc?
>
>>>>>>>>>> No, I dont currently.
>
>>>>>>>>>> Mainly because most of my Outlook alarms arent any use on the
>>>>>>>>>> mobile, they are only useful back on the house PC.
>
>>>>>>>>>> Havent decided what I will do on that stuff, only had it for a
>>>>>>>>>> couple of weeks.
>
>>>>>>>>> Have you used the inbuilt VOIP client yet?
>
>>>>>>>> Nope, not yet.
>
>>>>>>> Do you intend to?
>
>>>>>> Probably, if only to give it a whirl. Doesnt have any real value
>>>>>> for me, I get the few mobile calls I make for free.
>
>>>>> On second thoughts, it would make sense to use it at home. I havent
>>>>> been able to justifiy voip till now, I pay for so few non local
>>>>> calls that arent 13s or 1800s, but since this is free hardware, it
>>>>> would make sense.
>
>>>>> So what I need is a minimum cost voip operation, and I'm not that
>>>>> keen on giving my credit card to an out of country operation.
>>
>>>>> MNF is sort of viable and does support the N95 explicitly, but the
>>>>> $20 up front thats call credits is a tad hard to justify. Thats
>>>>> 100ish national calls and that would take years to spend, literally.
>
>>>> Not sure if it's useful to you, but you can use the $20 for SMS as
>>>> well.
>
>>> Yeah, good point. Tho I currently get those for free since I am using
>>> up a couple of slut signup credits and that will last for years yet at
>>> my current rate.
>
>>>> https://www.mynetfone.com.au/offers/whirlpool
>
>>> Kicking myself for not checking that myself.
>
>> Japs. Disembowelling. Mess on the carpet. Ring any bells?
>
> Nope, not one.
>
>>>>> Gotalk is $10 and that doesnt turn into call credits.
>
>>>> And they are a pain in the arse to deal with if you ever have billing
>>>> enquiries etc.
>
>>> Yeah, found that myself. The web site claims that the 1800 number
>>> works on weekends, but when the chinese fella did get around to
>>> answering it, he claimed it only works for faults on the weekend.
>
>> Have a look at the ex-Wild users who were moved to Go-Talk following
>> Wild going bust. They had paid a refundable deposit with Wild, then had
>> a prick of a time getting anyone from Go-Talk to take any
>> responsibility for it.
>
>>>>> Pennytel is $10 refundable, doesnt turn into call credits either,
>>>>> and is an out of country operation. The 8c calls to the US and
>>>>> pomland could be useful tho.
>
>>>> If you can get through. Pennytel have had a run of problems lately.
>
> OK, might leave that one for now and get it later for the calls to
> mobiles and the US etc when they get their act into gear.

I wouldn't hold your breath waiting! My guess is they're on the way out.
They used to be very reliable, 18 months ago. But, by all accounts,
they're not any more. Although i haven't had any problems the couple of
times i've used them recently. It won't surprise me if they join astratel
in the failed ITSP's club - their calls are just a bit too cheap to be
profitable, i reckon.

>>>> I'd just pay the $20 and go with MNF.
>
>>> Why instead of the whirlfool offer ?
>
>> Even on that offer it's $20 for BYO hardware.
>> https://www.mynetfone.com.au/offers/...ur-own-device-
page-379/
>
>> You just get the cheaper call rates.
>
> Yeah, noticed that after I posted.
>
>>>> Even if you never make a call with them, $20 for a DID isn't too
>>>> shabby.
>
>>> Yeah but I dont need DID at all.
>
>> That fucks that idea then. Still, $20 isn't too bad whichever way you
>> look at it.
>
> Sure, and it obviously does no harm to have it included.
>
>> If you don't need a DID (so no incoming calls), don't need SMS and make
>> fuck-all outgoing calls, why are you interested in VoIP? Just cos you
>> can with the new handset?
>
> Nope. I do make some non local and non 13 and 1800 calls, just not
> enough to justify the cost of even the lowest cost hardware. Since it
> comes free with the N95 bought for other reasons, might as well use it
> when I can do that cheaply. Tho $20 is still hard to justify, I might as
> well do it just for the convenience of being able to make 10c national
> calls. I would certainly make more if they are available.
>
>> FWIW, I've been using MNF for all calls (other than 13, 1300, 1800 and
>> 000) for about 6 months and the call quality is fine. Using it through
>> a Billion with the home phone wiring connected to the VoIP port on the
>> router, so I just use the standard pana cordless for all VoIP calls. My
>> wife hasn't even noticed any difference.
>
> Yeah, thats what I was planning to do till the voip in the N95 turned
> up, just couldnt justify the cost of replacing the current billion wifi
> router with a billion wifi voip router because I dont spend that much on
> national calls.
>
>> The handy thing for me has been the ability to select an out of state
>> DID number. That way, even though I'm in Melbourne, relo's in Brisvegas
>> can call me for the cost of a local call.
>
> Yeah, was thinking about that, except that the main caller is in another
> country town and the N95 battery life on wifi isnt that flash.
>
> So it would be more convenient to call them after they call me using the
> POTS system for peanuts.
>
>> (IIRC - you can also select an NZ number, if you have any sheep-shagger
>> mates)
>
> Nar, never stooped that low.