Will Kemp <Will@xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Kwyjibo <kwyjibo@ozdebate.remove.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Horry <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> John Phillips <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got mine off a Brisvegas ebay seller, no complaints
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and better value than anyone else I could find.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Roddles do you synch the diary etc. back to Outlook on your pc?

>>>>>>>>>>> No, I dont currently.

>>>>>>>>>>> Mainly because most of my Outlook alarms arent any use
>>>>>>>>>>> on the mobile, they are only useful back on the house PC.

>>>>>>>>>>> Havent decided what I will do on that stuff, only had it
>>>>>>>>>>> for a couple of weeks.

>>>>>>>>>> Have you used the inbuilt VOIP client yet?

>>>>>>>>> Nope, not yet.

>>>>>>>> Do you intend to?

>>>>>>> Probably, if only to give it a whirl. Doesnt have any real
>>>>>>> value for me, I get the few mobile calls I make for free.

>>>>>> On second thoughts, it would make sense to use it at home.
>>>>>> I havent been able to justifiy voip till now, I pay for so few
>>>>>> non local calls that arent 13s or 1800s, but since this is free
>>>>>> hardware, it would make sense.

>>>>>> So what I need is a minimum cost voip operation, and I'm not that
>>>>>> keen on giving my credit card to an out of country operation.

>>>>>> MNF is sort of viable and does support the N95 explicitly, but
>>>>>> the $20 up front thats call credits is a tad hard to justify. Thats
>>>>>> 100ish national calls and that would take years to spend, literally.

Its actually 200 with the whirlfool offer.

>>>>> Not sure if it's useful to you, but you can use the $20 for SMS as well.

>>>> Yeah, good point. Tho I currently get those for free since I am using up a
>>>> couple of slut signup credits and that will last for years yet at my current rate.

And I got hundreds of bucks in dingoblue credits that the fools were
actually stupid enough to pay out in cash when they folded too.

Guess I might as well invest $20 of that in MNF even if that does take a decade to spend.

>>>>> https://www.mynetfone.com.au/offers/whirlpool

>>>> Kicking myself for not checking that myself.

>>> Japs. Disembowelling. Mess on the carpet. Ring any bells?

>> Nope, not one.

>>>>>> Gotalk is $10 and that doesnt turn into call credits.

>>>>> And they are a pain in the arse to deal with if you ever have billing enquiries etc.

>>>> Yeah, found that myself. The web site claims that the 1800 number
>>>> works on weekends, but when the chinese fella did get around to
>>>> answering it, he claimed it only works for faults on the weekend.

>>> Have a look at the ex-Wild users who were moved to Go-Talk following Wild
>>> going bust. They had paid a refundable deposit with Wild, then had a prick
>>> of a time getting anyone from Go-Talk to take any responsibility for it.

>>>>>> Pennytel is $10 refundable, doesnt turn into call credits either,
>>>>>> and is an out of country operation. The 8c calls to the US and
>>>>>> pomland could be useful tho.

>>>>> If you can get through. Pennytel have had a run of problems lately.

>> OK, might leave that one for now and get it later for the calls
>> to mobiles and the US etc when they get their act into gear.

> I wouldn't hold your breath waiting! My guess is they're on the way out.

OK, no rush, plenty of time to see how they go. I've signed up for the
MNF whirlfool offer and get 15c/min calls to mobiles with that, so the
only real advantage with Pennytel is the 8c untimed calls to the US etc.

> They used to be very reliable, 18 months ago. But, by all accounts, they're
> not any more. Although i haven't had any problems the couple of times i've
> used them recently. It won't surprise me if they join astratel in the failed
> ITSP's club - their calls are just a bit too cheap to be profitable, i reckon.

Yeah, not surprising that many dont last long.

>>>>> I'd just pay the $20 and go with MNF.

>>>> Why instead of the whirlfool offer ?

>>> Even on that offer it's $20 for BYO hardware.
>>> https://www.mynetfone.com.au/offers/...ur-own-device-
>>> page-379/

>>> You just get the cheaper call rates.

>> Yeah, noticed that after I posted.

>>>>> Even if you never make a call with them, $20 for a DID isn't too shabby.

>>>> Yeah but I dont need DID at all.

>>> That fucks that idea then. Still, $20 isn't too bad whichever way you look at it.

>> Sure, and it obviously does no harm to have it included.

>>> If you don't need a DID (so no incoming calls), don't need SMS and
>>> make fuck-all outgoing calls, why are you interested in VoIP? Just
>>> cos you can with the new handset?

>> Nope. I do make some non local and non 13 and 1800 calls, just not
>> enough to justify the cost of even the lowest cost hardware. Since it
>> comes free with the N95 bought for other reasons, might as well use
>> it when I can do that cheaply. Tho $20 is still hard to justify, I
>> might as well do it just for the convenience of being able to make
>> 10c national calls. I would certainly make more if they are available.

>>> FWIW, I've been using MNF for all calls (other than 13, 1300, 1800
>>> and 000) for about 6 months and the call quality is fine. Using it
>>> through a Billion with the home phone wiring connected to the VoIP
>>> port on the router, so I just use the standard pana cordless for
>>> all VoIP calls. My wife hasn't even noticed any difference.

>> Yeah, thats what I was planning to do till the voip in the N95 turned up,
>> just couldnt justify the cost of replacing the current billion wifi router with
>> a billion wifi voip router because I dont spend that much on national calls.

>>> The handy thing for me has been the ability to select an out of
>>> state DID number. That way, even though I'm in Melbourne,
>>> relo's in Brisvegas can call me for the cost of a local call.

>> Yeah, was thinking about that, except that the main caller is in
>> another country town and the N95 battery life on wifi isnt that flash.

>> So it would be more convenient to call them after
>> they call me using the POTS system for peanuts.

>>> (IIRC - you can also select an NZ number, if you have any sheep-shagger mates)

>> Nar, never stooped that low.