On 2008-03-17, DAB sounds worse than FM <dab.is@dead> wrote:
> Whiskers wrote:
>> On 2008-03-16, DAB sounds worse than FM <dab.is@dead> wrote:
>>> Whiskers wrote:
>>>> On 2008-03-14, john doe <easyhome@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>> If i get a new phone that has internet capability and a contract
>>>>> that offers unlimited internet access (ie, O2 for £7.50 per month)
>>>>> am i correct in thinking that i would be able to go onto the BBC
>>>>> website and use the "listen again" feature all day long for free.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>>
>>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> Most unlikely, even if you have a phone that can handle 'streaming'
>>>> content. For a start, how much data do you think a day-long use of
>>>> the BBC streams would amount to,
>>>
>>>
>>> The BBC's Listen Again streams are using 64 kbps, so that works out
>>> as being
>>> 27.5 MB per hour of listening, or 37 hours of listening per GB.
>>
>> Whereas the O2 add-on service has a 'fair usage' limit of 200MB per
>> month. So it's most unlikely that the OP will be able to get away
>> with doing what he wants to do using that service.
>
>
> Are you saying that something described as being "unlimited" had a 200MB per
> month limit on it?

I refer you to my first article in this thread.

>>>> and how much would you pay a wired
>>>> ISP for that much data?
>>>
>>> How are you going to receive fixed-line broadband when you're
>>> sitting in your car on the motorway?
>>
>> Who suggested trying any such thing?
>
>
> The OP's question was about listening to Listen Again on his mobile. So
> answering by telling him to use fixed-line broadband at home is sort of
> missing the point, isn't it.

It certainly is. Which is probably why I did no such thing.

>> The point is that mobile
>> broadband tends to be no cheaper than a fixed line service
>
>
> I repeat: what good is that when you're out and about and you want to listen
> to the radio or Listen Again?
>
>
>>- and
>> there aren't many fixed line services that have a monthly limit large
>> enough for the OP to do what he wants at a price of £7.50, as far as
>> I know.
>
>
> Fixed-line is irrelevant here.
>
>
>> But a mobile phone with a built-in FM radio receiver will give
>> genuinely unlimited content streaming, at no cost to the listener,
>
>
> The OP asked about Listen Again, which isn't available on FM.
>
>
>> and probably over a larger geographic area. I don't know if any
>> mobile phones have built-in DAB receivers, but there are certainly
>> stand-alone pocket radios that do.
>
>
> Listen Again isn't available on DAB either.

Please read the articles again. The OP asked about listening all day
long; that isn't what the 'Listen again' service is for - if he wants to
listen to the radio all day, then why not use a radio? If he wants to
listen to previous broadcasts, whay not use a personal audio player loaded
from his home computer?

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