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Old 03-28-2008, 12:35 AM
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An additional thought:

I provided Option B mostly for educational value.

I know I could get it to work, but there are additional considerations I
didn't mention, such as disabling the DHCP server in the wireless router.

Overall, I think option B would have many challenges for you.

Best Regards,
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News Reader wrote:
> That changes everything. Thanks for including the relevant information
> in your two posts.
>
> I assumed (incorrectly) that your WAN port was an Ethernet interface, as
> most routers used in residential settings are configured that way.
>
> The ISP equipment you have described has an Ethernet interface; the
> router's WAN interface is not Ethernet, therefore they are not compatible.
>
> The guy who sold the router to you must have known the router did not
> meet your needs if he advised you to "just use lan 1". This person is
> apparently not your friend, as they have taken advantage of you.
>
> To utilize the functionality of a router, traffic must pass through it
> (i.e.: your devices on the LAN side, the ISPs devices on the WAN side).
> My earlier post explained why you can not access the management
> interface from your host.
>
> Right now you have the equivalent functionality of a wireless Access
> Point with the exception that you can't even effectively manage it.
>
> Ideally you would return the router to the non-friend, get your money
> back, and buy another wireless router.
>
> If that can not be done, consider the following two options:
>
> Option A: Buy another wireless router with the appropriate WAN
> interface. Sell the existing router to someone who actually needs a
> router with a DSL WAN interface.
>
> Option B: Buy a "non-wireless" router with the appropriate WAN
> interface. Attach the existing wireless router to it (LAN port of one
> device to LAN port of the other) using a "cross-over" Ethernet cable.
> The wireless router will provide the wireless connectivity. The
> non-wireless router would provide the security. In order for this to
> work you would need the LAN IP addresses of the two routers to be on the
> same network (e.g.: 192.168.1.0). HOWEVER, the two IP addresses must NOT
> be the same (e.g.: 192.168.1.1, 192.168.1.2). You would then be able to
> manage both devices from your host.
>
> If you pursued option B, you would want to configure the two routers to
> have different IP addresses PRIOR to connecting the two routers together
> as described above. If they were connected together and had the same IP
> address, you would not succeed in configuring them.
>
> Option A would be simpler, and easier for you to implement based on your
> skill set.
>
> See if you can return the router to the non-friend. If that fails, I
> suggest you pursue Option A.
>
> It's unfortunate that the manufacturer is not committed to providing
> adequate documentation. Typically, I would avoid buying products from
> such manufactures. If they can't meet their obligations, I can't be
> bothered buying their product (not even second hand).
>
> Best Regards,
> News Reader
>
> nam-kha@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>> OK Thanks, I have 4 lan ports on the back of the router and a dsl port
>> with a different type of connector. Guy I bought the router from said
>> just use lan 1. Assuming (correct me if i'm wrong) the dsl port is
>> what you call the wan port, what cabling do i need? I don't want to
>> break the isp provided lan cat5 lead that originally plugged straight
>> into the lan port on my pc
>>
>> btw, i did not get a manula with the router, i bought it second hand.
>> I have downloaded both uk and spanish manuals from e-tech website, but
>> they are only 2 pages long and don't really help
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> nam-kha
>>
>> On 27 Mar, 21:28, News Reader <u...@domain.null> wrote:
>>> You have connected the ISPs device to the first of four LAN ports.
>>>
>>> This is incorrect!
>>>
>>> You connect ISP equipment to the WAN port. Your wired equipment gets
>>> connected to the LAN ports. Your wireless also connects to the LAN side
>>> of the router via RF (wireless).
>>>
>>> The purpose of a router is to sit between two networks and facilitate
>>> connections between them. Also, if traffic is not passing through the
>>> router, how do you expect to derive the security benefits of the router?
>>>
>>> What you want is for the router's WAN port to acquire an IP address from
>>> a DHCP server of your ISP. Your host (computer) would acquire an IP
>>> address from the DHCP server within the router. The host would then have
>>> an IP address on the same network (192.168.1.0) as the router's web
>>> server interface, and you would be able to access the web interface.
>>>
>>> Right now, your host has an IP address from your ISP's network (not
>>> 192.168.1.0), and doesn't know how to reach the router's web interface.
>>>
>>> Correct your cabling.
>>>
>>> Configure your host with a static IP address (e.g.: 192.168.1.2)
>>> temporarily, connect to the router, turn DHCP back on, configure your
>>> host to use DHCP again, and resume whatever router configuration you
>>> desire.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> News Reader
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> nam-...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> I live in rural spain so can't get a landline let alone broadband. I
>>>> signed up with a local ISP who came out and installed an antenna on my
>>>> roof so I can access the internet via their wifi hotspot. Basically I
>>>> have a lan cable from this to plug into my laptop. OK works great. So
>>>> then I get more adventurous and buy a wireless router so I don't need
>>>> the lan cable to my laptop but use the laptops in built wifi to
>>>> connect to the router and the internet.
>>>> Everything works fine, but I can't access the router to change it's
>>>> settings anymore.
>>>> Guy I bought it off told me to turn off dhcp, so I accessed router
>>>> setup via html at 192.168.1.1 and did just that. He also told me to
>>>> change from unsecured to secured, but after I've turned of dhcp I
>>>> can't get the setup page on that IP anymore.
>>>> Heres a few more details -
>>>> windows vista home premium
>>>> compaq with inbuilt wifi
>>>> e-tech adwg02 wireless router
>>>> isp's network cable from antenna plugged into 1st of four lan
>>>> connections
>>>> network settings show my computer with an IP allocated from ISP, a
>>>> gateway with IP allocated by ISP, and in the middle, the ssid of the
>>>> router, but with no IP.
>>>> It all works fine but I need to access the router to turn on security.
>>>> Any ideas, help appreciated.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Nam-kha- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -

>>


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