Roger 2008 wrote:
> "News" <News@Group.name> wrote in message
> news:rq-dnaFKsefbuGvanZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@speakeasy.net...
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>>Roger 2008 wrote:
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>>>"News" <News@Group.name> wrote in message
>>>news:y4GdnVf5xo6Yk2vanZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@speakeasy .net...
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>>>>Jack Hamilton wrote:
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>>>>>George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
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>>>>>>D wrote:
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>>>>>>>On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:01:52 GMT, "P.Schuman"
>>>>>>><pschuman_no_spam_me@interserv.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If I enable the GPS location ON vs just have E911
>>>>>>>>can I display my own LAT/LON values somehow without a map
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> application
>
>>>?
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>>>
>>>>>>>>I just want to be able to log specific GPS coords
>>>>>>>>to be used later by standard GPS units.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>GPS on cell phones is not based on the satalites in orbit, rather
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> they
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>>>>>>>triangulate off the towers. It isn't a true GPS....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Actually some do use that as part of the solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The problem with this question is that the OP cross posted to every
>>>>>>cellular group without specifying what carrier they use and what phone
>>>>>>they use.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>And yet no one has answered the question for any phone or any carrier.
>>>>>Perhaps someone will have to write a custom program. Does GPS return
>>>>>lat/lon, or does it use some other location scheme?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The HP iPaq hw65**/67**/69** GPS radio outputs NMEA 0183 Geographic
>>>>Latitude and Longitude (GLL) format coordinates, independent of carrier.
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>>>
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>>>I believe that pretty much every GPS out there uses the "NMEA 0183"
>>>protocol.
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>>But they're not all cell phones, are they?
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>
>
> If you know of a "cell phone" that takes "map applications" like the
> original poster was asking about and does *not* use "NMEA 0183" protocol
> then let me know about it.
>
> Until then I will repeat myself as having posted: "I believe that pretty
> much every GPS out there uses the "NMEA 0183" protocol.
>
> TNX
>
>


Sure, repeat at will. Regardless of context.

The question, cross-posted to numerous cell phone provider newsgroups,
about E911 a cell phone location matter, was:

"Does GPS return lat/lon, or does it use some other location scheme?"

The reply was yes, GPS does return GLL. Further, that on the hw-series
iPaq PocketPC GSM phones, it will do so, even without a SIM installed.

"TNX", yourself. Check that DST problem, too.