While dumping the
alt.cellular.verizon,alt.cellular.sprintpcs,alt.ce llular.cingular,alt.cellular.t-mobile,alt.cellular.attws
bit bucket, I heard Richard B. Gilbert say:

> Gordon Burditt wrote:
>>>Please do not forget who the original poster was and his questions: He
>>>asked:
>>>"can I display my own LAT/LON values somehow without a map application ?"
>>
>> For some cell phone implementation of "GPS" (this one doesn't involve
>> actual satellites talking to your phone), your position coordinates
>> are present at the cell towers and somewhere in the offices of Big
>> Brother, but not on your cell phone. If a map application can get
>> your position at all, it has to ask your cell provider to send it,
>> and that may cost money.
>>
>>>The answer to that is "yes" and it is proven by the amount of freeware
>>>available for PPC/phones that turn GPS data into lat/long.
>>
>> Some phones (and PDAs) have a real GPS that listens to satellites
>> built in. I suspect that includes a Nextel phone I was testing a
>> few years ago: it never managed to talk to the satellites because
>> of one of (a) office building roof, (b) parking garage roof, or (c)
>> car roof was in the way most of the time, and the coordinates didn't
>> update for several days. That phone permitted me to display the
>> coordinates on the screen, along with some info about how many
>> satellites were visible. This seems to be what the OP is looking
>> for. I doubt that particular phone model is still sold, but
>> user-visible GPS is still likely available on some phones.
>>
>> On my current phone (Motorola RAZR V3 with T-Mobile), I don't think
>> the feature is available. This phone doesn't have a lot of memory
>> for apps or maps, either (about 3 meg).
>>
>
> My Verizon Wireless RAZR V3m claims GPS capability. I don't think you
> get displays of satellite positions or latitude and longitude but you
> can get software for it that will prompt to "turn left at the next
> intersection". Like everything else, I think the software is an extra
> cost item.
>
> The RAZR V3m allows you to install a "Micro SD Trans Flash" memory card
> which you can use to store photographs, audio recordings, etc, etc. You
> can't, AFAIK, store them there directly but you can move then to the
> Trans Flash card. I have a 1GB card in my phone right now. I think I
> paid something like $15 US for it. The other nice thing is that you can
> get a USB "reader" for these cards which allows you to remove the card
> from your camera, plug it into the adapter, the adapter into your
> computer and you can copy pictures or audio recordings into your
> computer. If you are so inclined you could probably copy music from
> your computer to the trans flash card, install the card in your phone
> and use it to play the music.

I regularly move photos, mp3's, etc, back and forth to my V3m's flash
card without removing it. Depending on which computer I'm using, I do it
with either BlueTooth or a USB cable. The free "BitPIM" utility is also
handy for working with files for the phone...

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