Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:

> Oh, but they are. See:
> | http://virtualearth.msn.com
> and try the "Locate Me" Active-X control. You'll find that it's
> amazingly accurate.

This works via some database that may be a tightly held secret by
Microsoft. I've read some about how certain locators "guess" at a location
based on the zip codes used for searches out of that IP address, but the
MS Location Finder hits a WAP near me squarely on the map, and it's not a
public WAP. I might have to ask them if they voluntarily participate in
some MS scheme.

Okay... this is cute:

> Also, how about MS Location Finder for Wi-Fi?
> | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Spot on.

> Perhaps some products?
> | http://www.ip2location.com

Within 10-20 miles, probably some defined ISP location for my IP block.

> | http://www.hostip.info

Huh? Headquarters for the ISP, maybe?

> For Wi-Fi, I've been working with RFC3825 services for VoIP E911
> location:
> | http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3825.html

That looks good. Maybe what Microsoft is using, but that requires a DHCP
server that has these fields available for definition, and that responds to
someone's request for the information. Do you know of any? Do you know
how MS Locator does its lookups?

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