Woody wrote:

> As I said on here a week or so ago, Virgin (as was NTL) got big by
> taking over other cable companies, and the install standard and system
> structure varied a lot between them.
>
> Get a good area in Virgin - as it is round here - and VOIP works
> perfectly well, but in other areas it is not so.

I disagree.
I was with Telewest from the start and had brilliant service for many
years through 1Mb -> 2Mb -> 4Mb -> through Blueyonder 10Mb even
ntl:telewest merger was fine until VM took over and started sharing main
pipes with ADSL trafic. Cutting costs through cutting spending while
trying to reel in more & more customers so they could find a foolish
investor willing to buy a company that was so far down in the sh1t it
was a hopelss investment...
That's when it went tits-up, that's when voip and even broadband became
crippled.

Nothing to do with the installation of local infrastructure as that was
all un-changed.

The deeper they get into debt, the more they will be throttling back
bandwidth and limiting QOS. Just as long as they allow you to hit 20Mbps
for a few minutes each day when everyone is asleep, the service will
keep getting worse.
I will never go back to cable not now not never.

Pete