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Old 04-12-2008, 08:42 PM
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Default Re: Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matroxmillenium G550?

On 10 apr, 23:19, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> HDI wrote:
> > On 10 apr, 15:50, "GT" <ContactGT_remove...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> "HDI" <hd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:b12b08c6-5475-4f0a-98f1-fc02eb200ff1@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com....
> >> On 9 apr, 00:33, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:

>
> >> [snip]

>
> >> I visited the local shop site and the only matrox G550 I found was an
> >> 'Matrox Millenium G550 - 32 MB - PCI Low Profile - 2 x
> >> VGA' (manufacturer code: g55mddap32dbf), so no AGP. There are also
> >> PCIe but I haven't got such a slot.

>
> >> Should I look further for an AGP or does both of them have the same
> >> performance and is the slot the only difference?
> >> Maybe I'm wrong but I thought AGP is better than PCI.

>
> >> A second question. Can I put any PCI card in a pci slot or are there
> >> also differences like AGP.

>
> >> ===========

>
> >> The 'same' card in AGP or PCIe will have the same, or at least very very
> >> close performance.

>
> >> Not sure quite what you are asking in the second question...
> >> I suspect you might be confusing PCI with PCIe. PCI is the normal slot used
> >> for add-in cards in the PC. There are usually 3-5 PCI slots on a
> >> motherboard. The PCIe is the new graphics card slot - replacement of AGP. A
> >> PCI card will not fit in a PCIe slot. A PCIe card will not fit in a PCI
> >> slot. As a last resort - look on Wikipedia for a short explanation of them
> >> all.

>
> > OK thanks I'll look on Wikipedia.

>
> >> The 'same' card in AGP or PCIe will have the same, or at least very very
> >> close performance.

>
> > The card I found was an 'Matrox Millenium G550 - 32 MB - PCI Low
> > Profile - 2 x VGA' (manufacturer code: g55mddap32dbf). It's a PCI not
> > a PCIe.
> > I haven't got a PCIe slot.

>
> > Is the PCI card also the same and has it the also the same
> > performance?

>
> PCI slots have lower performance than AGP. The difference is most apparentin
> games (games with a lot of bus traffic). If you are updating a lot of 2D pixmaps
> on the screen in real time (like a movie), the PCI bus may also feel the strain
> a bit. You could also have other traffic competing for the PCI bus, like say
> some PCI IDE card with disk traffic on the bus.
>
> AGP8X = 2132MB/sec. AGP4X = 1066MB/sec. AGP2X = 533MB/sec. AGP1X =266MB/sec
>
> PCI (ordinary desktop bus) = 133MB/sec
>
> PCI Express x16 (newest video slot standard) = 4000MB/sec on TX and on RX
>
> The Matrox Millenium G550 PCI low profile, when plugged into a desktop PCI
> slot, will be limited to the 133MB/sec figure. By using burst transfer,
> you might see a practical transfer rate of 110MB/sec or maybe a bit more.
>
> http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/cr.../g550lppci.php
>
> Note that particular card has a low profile faceplate, so the tab won't
> align with a regular computer case PCI screw hole. That particular card
> is designed for a smaller computer case. Some low profile cards will come
> with two faceplates, a regular height one and a low profile one, so you
> can fit the low profile card into any desktop computer. (You install a
> faceplate, according to the slot height.)
>
> AGP cards are still available, some with dual heads. For example, this
> one has a 1.5V only AGP slot pattern on the edge. You should check your
> motherboard documentation, to see what AGP voltages your motherboard
> supports. I suspect you have plenty of choices available to you,
> since you mentioned P4.
>
> http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...161-210-05.jpg
>
> This site has some info.
>
> http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html
>
> If you post back the name of the motherboard, I can help suggest what
> kind of AGP cards would work. Or you can use the Playtool page and figure
> it out.
>
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I've got a Compaq Evo D310, Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz, 512 MB
Baseboard: Compaq 0804h.

I need a dual monitor just for administration, not for games.



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