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Old 04-17-2008, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matroxmillenium G550?

On 15 apr, 17:16, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> HDI wrote:
>
> > I've looked here in the shops for passively cooled agp dual monitor
> > cards.

>
> > What do you think of these (they have to handle at least a resolution
> > of 1440x900):

>
> > * Gigabyte Geforce 7600 GS 256 MB (GV-N76G256D-RH)

>
> > * Is the max power draw of 32 W too much for this computer?
> > * The interface is AGP 8X and my current one is AGP 4X. If my
> > motherbord can handle only 4X will this work?

>
> > * XFX GeForce 6200A 256 MB (PV-T44A-WANG)

>
> > The second one is two times as expensive as the first one.

>
> That one is an interesting mix of features. On the one hand, it has an external
> power connector. (Usually a sign of slightly higher power consumption.)
> The idea is, they wanted a source of +12V to run the power conversion,
> without the limitations of the current carrying capabilities of the
> pins on the AGP slot. On the other hand, the heatsink is passive (and
> the heatsink is a bit larger than some of the other passively cooled
> cards). I'd say this is a possible solution, as you don't plan to
> use the 3D features, so it probably won't get that hot.
>
> GIGABYTE GeForce 7600GS GV-N76G256D-RH Video Cardhttp://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-125-039-09.jpg
>
> The 7600GS power varies between 14W and 28W or so, according to this
> estimation (they used a 7600GT and downclocked it, to make the
> measurement).
>
> http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...r-noise_6.html
>
> You can read some of the review comments here. They mention the heatsink
> runs pretty hot, so you may want to place a fan near the card. You can
> connect a computer case fan to one of your motherboard fan headers, to get
> a source of power for the fan.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125039
>
> The second card (PV-T44A-WANG) is apparently carried by Dell. A non-Dell
> web site lists the price as being somewhere in the $50 USD range. A couple
> places list it as out of stock, but may be arriving soon. This site lists
> the card for $42.
>
> http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec....iteria=3903480
>
> Judging by the size of the heatsink, the 6200 draws less power. Note that
> the FX5200 AGP that I had a fan mounted next to, had the exact same kind
> of heatsink as your 6200. So it still might need a fan, if there are
> signs of instability.
>
> If you can find the 6200 card for a reasonable price, then that might
> run a bit cooler. If you don't want to deal with Internet sellers, then
> get the 7600GS card. You'll need to provide a source of power to the 7600GS,
> to the four pin Molex on the end of the card. If your power supply doesn't
> have any spare Molex power connectors, you can use a "Y cable" to make
> another connector for it. (Some video cards, like my ATI 9800Pro, includeda
> Y cable for power.) There is a female and two male connectors, and allows
> extending power from the back of a disk drive. I've used quite a few
> of these, for my computers, for one thing and another. I've also used
> them to power fans.
>
> http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...201-006-02.jpg
>
> The 7600GS won't use its maximum power, unless you are doing stuff
> involving 3D. Games are something that uses 3D. Vista also does a
> bit of 3D (Aero interface, compositing of windows etc). Perhaps an
> application that uses OpenGL, would kick the card into 3D mode as
> well.
>
> Some video cards support user adjustment of core and memory clocks.
> If you want to further reduce the power consumption of a card, then
> turning down the clocks being used on the card, is one way to do it.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RivaTuner
>
> In terms of installing the card, this is what I'd recommend.
>
> 1) Make sure you have a driver to install on the new card. There should
> * * be a CD in the box. You can also download a more recent driver from
> * * the Internet before you start work.
> 2) Uninstall the existing driver for the MX200. Check Add/Remove control
> * * panel, and look for the Nvidia driver.
> 3) Shut down and remove power from the computer. Change video cards.
> 4) On bootup, the new card will operate in a vanilla VGA mode.
> * * Install the new Nvidia driver. After a reboot, you should be offered
> * * more output resolutions, and be able to set up the display properly.
> 5) If the card runs too hot (either behaves unstable, or you burn yourself
> * * on the heatsink), then either you can experiment with Rivatuner or
> * * you can purchase a case cooling fan, and fit that next to the card,
> * * blowing on the heatsink.
>
> If you need a fan, this is an example. I have one of the larger Vantec
> fans, and it is pretty quiet. This one is 80mm square, and 27 CFM.
> It is pictured with a Molex power connector, so if you purchased
> yet another Molex Y cable, both this fan and the 7600GS power connector,
> could run off an existing disk drive power cable.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811999602
>
> Finding a bracket to hold a fan, can actually be difficult. I made
> my own bracket, using a piece of aluminum from the hardware store
> (L shaped cross section). This is an example of a retail kit, that
> could hold a fan where it is needed. This kit would allow positioning
> a fan next to a video card (but takes up a slot or more).
>
> http://www.logisyscomputer.com/views.../CF108_13.jpg* (picture)
>
> There are also complete heatsink replacements for video cards, but
> fitting cards that have an HSI bridge, is a bit more difficult. (Cooling
> kits don't always fit AGP cards.) And the replacement coolers also make
> your overall video card purchase a lot more expensive than it should be.
> This is an example of one.
>
> Here, someone is fitting a VF700 to their video card. The blue heatsink
> covers the HSI chip. The problem with this, is the top edge of the
> VF700, can bump into the side panel on the computer case. The video
> card in this case, is a 6600GT AGP, a 50W card.
>
> http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9413/660029to.jpg
>
> http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...sumption2006_7....
>
> HTH,
> * * Paul- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>
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Another problem: When I look at the resolutions supported 1440 x 900
isn't in the list.

Maybe I have to start all over and thinking of getting a new power
supply.

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