"Rob" <rob1@nonet.net> wrote in message
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> "Graham" <graham@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> "Steve Terry" <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
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>>> "Graham" <graham@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>>>> I've just bought a Vodafone SIM and fully registered it on PAYG and
>>>> topped
>>>> it up with £10. I will be leaving the Nokia 3310 in my glove box as an
>>>> emergency phone but am concerned they may disconnect the phone if not
>>>> used
>>>> as it mentions something about this in the booklet that came with the
>>>> sim,
>>>> but its not clear. I've put my old Orange Sim with it I know it does
>>>> not
>>>> disconnect, but does anyone have experience of leaving a Vodafone PAYG
>>>> unused for a year or two with paid for credit left on it? Surely they
>>>> can't disconnect it if I have credit left on it?
>>>> Graham
>>>>
>>> Orange can cut off a sim after 6 months of disuse
>>>
>>> Vodafone are the worse for cutting off an unused Sim.
>>> as little as 3 months is enough.
>>> Make sure you make a chargeable call at least every 3 months
>>>
>>> Or go for a Virgin Sim, although like most networks they can cut a Sim
>>> off
>>> after 6 months of disuse, i've never known them to do so.
>>>
>>> Best of all is to get an Orange OVP Virgin by transfer.
>>> There is No expiry on them, and a free IB every month.
>>>
>>> Steve Terry
>>
>> Thanks for advise. Outrageous if any firm cut it off with paid for credit
>> still on phone.
>
> No it isn't, it is in the terms and conditions you agreed to.
>
>>Close to theft,
>
> No it isn't. Go and look at the definition of theft, then read the terms
> and conditions
> you agreed to!
>
>>but suppose the terms and conditions cover them in this morally
>>questionable practice.
>
> It isn't a questionable practice just because you don't like it. You had
> a choice to
> buy something else but didn't, so you agreed to the terms and conditions.
> It's not that difficult to understand.
>
>>My Orange PAYG Sim has been active since 1997 and hardly ever used it,
>>(probably no more than 5 calls in all that time). I have another Orange
>>PAYG Sim that does get regular use. Perhaps their system is aware of that
>>and doesn't cut the unused Sim for that reason, but doubt they are that
>>clever. Are they?
>
> They don't link PAYG accounts in such a way, each purchase is covered by
> the terms
> and conditions you choose not to recognise or agree with after purchase.
>
>> Only reason I have setup the Vodafone sim is coverage around here is poor
>> on Orange. Its unlikely I will make a call on this sim within 6 months
>> minimum, so we will see what happens.
>
> How pointless, you already know what will happen.
>
>>The only reason I topped it up with their minimum (£10) was to try to keep
>>it active. If they still cut it through non use, I will never, ever use
>>Vodafone again.
>
> Do you really think £10 means anything to them? Your tiny spend is
> nothing
> compared to a lot of people. I doubt they would miss you.
>
>>I suppose I'm not going to put much money there way, but ten quid is ten
>>quid. If they don't cut it, who knows, I might even use them for my main
>>phone in time and I get through about £100 a year on that. Not a high
>>user, but surely worth my custom?
>>
>
> Not really because the accounts are not linked in such a way. They don't
> care if
> you have hundreds of phones, if you don't stick to the terms and
> conditions then
> they will take action.
>
>> I'm new to this group, so could you clarify what Orange OVP and IB mean.
>> Thanks.
>>
>
> I take it you have a working web browser and can use sites such as Google?

I hate your attitude fella. Sound like a right jobsworth to me. Why stick up
for a giant firm? Who reads the Terms beyond the first couple of lines at
most? If you do, show me the line that shows me they will steel my credit if
I don't use the phone. I bet its not in there clearly written without
ambiguity. Don't lecture to me about what I SHOULD HAVE READ. Who do you
think you are sticking up for this highly dubious practice if it proves to
be true. So they write in the T&C's that they can murder my children if I
don't make a call within a few months. Still illegal aint it. Theft is
illegal as its murder. Putting a caveat in the terms does not make it ok to
break the law. This needs to be taken to court to get a precident set. Its
simply wrong to close the account. At the very least they could inform me if
a call is not made what they will do. They have all my details from the
registration.

Graham