"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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> AS you may have noted, I was simply posting this thread for "Skype
> Lovers" who enjoy all the freebies Skype provides all those other VoIP
> ONLY oddball providers you troll with do not.

Fair enough- I wasn't responding to your original post- I was responding to
your defense of Skype's international rates. I've already agreed Skype's
domestic rate is excellent. My advice would be to use Skype for it's
strengths (free Skype to Skype and unlimited USA/Canada) but look elsewhere
for international calls.


> I tried to warn you not to read this thread, but you wanted to troll so
> here we are. I don't care which Outer Slobovian SIP provider you use...

I use one in Florida (Magicjack) one in California (Gimzo) and one in
Atlanta (Voicestick.) The closest one to "Outer Slobovia" I use is located
in Luxembourg... maybe you've heard of it?

> or whether he provides .01c/hour to English mobile on T-mobile or Orange.
> I don't call English mobiles, personally, so it makes little difference
> to me. Skype's rate seems to reflect an outrageous profit margin on
> English mobile calls, so therefore I wouldn't use them.

Exactly my point. Use each for it's strengths. That's why I use multiple
VoIP providers, including Skype (more for it's ability to skirt around
hotspots employing VoIP port blocking than for it's rate structure.)

> What does VOIP Umptisquat charge to call Yellow Knife, Saskatchewan per
> hour?

Magicjack is $20/year for unlimited incoming/outgoing to the US and Canada.
At least until they run out of VC money and go out of business. ;-)

> What's their interconnect fee?

Um, only ONE VoIP provider I know of charges an "interconnect fee" and I
think you're intimately familar with that one.

> What's their tax fee and admin addons?

For the VoIPs I use, zero.

> Can I talk to Yellow Knife, Saskatchewan for 8000 minutes every
> month for $23.60/year, if I so choose such an absurd scenario?

No, you'll have to settle for $20/year if you use Magicjack.

> What if I call a Sellphone in Yellow Knife, Sasketchewan? How much does
> Umptisquat want for a 6000 minute per month obsession?

All VoIP providers charge the same for cell calls to the US and Canada as
they do for landlines, because the US and Canada do not have a caller pays
system.

> This is no more absurd than your troll....

Making 6000 minutes of calls to Saskatchewan is no more absurd than
occasional calls to UK mobiles?

> My post was to point out to Skype users these new packages as it saved
> me more money over Skype Pro I was using. Your mileage to Yellow Knife,
> Saskatchewan may vary....

That was the point of your first post. I'm not sure WHAT the point of the
last post claiming Skype overcharged to foreign mobiles because of "caller
pays." If you'll recall, YOU asked "If you find a VoIP where the provider
pays your half of the mobile phone per minute rate, I'd be very interested
in it" so I suggested a few which, although they don't "pay your half," they
charged significantly less than Skype. I get that Skype offers a great deal
in many circumstances, and you are wildly happy with them. You tread
dangerously close to Fanboy territory, however, when you turn a blind eye to
Skype's faults and disadvantages.

Your witness, counselor...

> Oh, how much does Umptisquat VOIP charge for a computer-to-computer,
> full motion color video call to Yellow Knife, Saskatchewan in an 8-way
> video conference call with Kuwait, The Czech Republic, Azerbaijan,
> Bahrain, Brazil, Chile, and St Kitts/Nevis? On Skype, it's free with
> unlimited service. What about full motion color video while
> simultaneously instant messaging and sending a 380KB binary file to
> Sahkalin Island, Russia, in the Sea of Japan? That's also free on nasty
> ol' Skype. What does Umptisquat VOIP charge for international video
> conferencing per hour/day/month/year/ever??
>
> I await your terse answers....(c;

I don't know- I don't use any VoIPs beside Skype that steal my idle
bandwidth for torrent-like distribution of their users' files! I believe
Gizmo does all that crap you mentioned if you use their software, but I only
use them for cellphone Visual Voicemail and the occasional SIP call- I don't
even have their software client installed on my machine. (I removed Skype
from my PC when I saw how much bandwidth was flushing through my system
whenever it was running as well. Now I only have it on a USB key and my
WinMo phone and just fire it up when I want to place a call.)