In article <fve0sn$b6p$1@energise.enta.net>, Phil <philusenet@gmail.com> wrote:
><mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>> They just do not give a monkeys about their voip customers anymore
>> they must be making more money out of some other service that they are
>> running . Had they cared the new Tariffs etc that have now been
>> promised for over a year would be here available and up and running .
>> Has no one can now join the voip service I would like to know how they
>> can ever hope to stay in business .
>>
>>
>Seems like they are concentrating on their business customers. One of the
>management posted on their forums that they make more money from one of
>their business customers than they do out of the all of their residential
>customers.
>
>It's a shame that they haven't released their residential tariffs, but I'm
>still using them as they have been very reliable for me.

As yet another VoIP/ITSP type of enterprise, I find that it's one of
those business conundrums... I provide VoIP, PBXs, etc. to businesses,
and I have a "hosted" system, but it's aimed at the small business rather
than the residential market - however I do have a small number of people
(Basically friends & family) using it in a residential manner.

But could I support 100's or 1000's of residential customers? And do I
want to when "Betamax" exists offering free calls? (Which I certainly
won't do!) If this is the case with voip.co.uk, then I can sort of
see their point, but there are still many ITSPs who'll offer these
features... Sipgate (not everyones favourite, I know, however they do
address the residential market), Gradwell - more for the SME, but liked
by the "clued-up" market who want a quality service, most of the hardware
suppliers provide a service - voiptalk.co.uk, voipfone.co.uk, (Telappliant
resellers), voipon.co.uk and so on, so we're not exactly short on choice.

And I have to say, the biggest issue I've faced with people working from
home, etc. is that they're tight fisted b'stards who'll go for the
cheapest and most rubbish ISP they can get their grubby paws on, and
then whinge when their VoIP doesn't work...

<grumpy-old-man> Bah! </grumpy-old-man>

So what would you want out of a residential VoIP service?

Gordon