On 04 May 2008 11:44:33 GMT, alexd <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 03 May 2008 22:18:50 +0000, T i m wrote:
>
>> On 03 May 2008 21:59:49 GMT, alexd <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> As you're using Sipgate I presume you've bought the subsidised ones
>>> from them;
>
>> Yes, well I noticed they were pretty cheap (at £59 etc).
>
>At first I assumed they were locked to Sipgate, as nobody is selling them
>at anywhere near the price that Sipgate do [cheapest I've seen is £109 on
>eBay, no mention of VAT].

I must say I was looking for the 'catch' (but didn't spot any) and as
I was probably going to use them through Sipgate anyway so it wasn't a
show stopper for me.

>But then I thought, even if they were locked,
>it would forever for Sipgate to make their money back at their rates.

Indeed, especially from me!

> So
>I've come to the conclusion that either

>a) Sipgate get them cheaper than everyone else,

Might have done a deal ..? Do you know how old this model is .. or is
there something better due out soon?

> b) Sipgate lose money on every one

Do the bean counters let that happen these days?

>c) Everyone else is
>coining it in.

That would be my bet. If you can buy a WiFi dongle for a couple of
quid, a mobile for £20 and a pair of DECT phones for the same I can't
see any device like that selling for more than 50 quid really?
>
>> From what I understand you configure the phone as you see fit?
>>
>> Is there anything I could try to test that for you?
>
>Just go into the WLAN/SIP settings and if it lets you specify anything
>other than sipgate.co.uk for domain name/proxy server/register server,
>then it should work with services other than Sipgate. I am interested in
>one and I use Sipgate, but I use it through Asterisk so if it was locked
>it would be no use to me.

Ok, weal I changed the domain to a made up one and I lost the VOIP
field on the display (so it did something that's for sure). I blanked
the field and it said VOIP again?

All the best ..

T i m

p.s. Daughters boyfriend has just set his up and we have had a chat.
I'll have to say the audio quality was pretty good. ;-)