Kevin Weaver wrote:
>
> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:gLbZj.192$SN3.6@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
>> Kevin Weaver wrote:
>>> Yeah, The same guy that said Edge was enough. Battery life would take
>>> a big hit. That's why we (Apple) went with Edge. Quote from Jobs. The
>>> new one's will not have a battery door, Battery life _Will Suck_ even
>>> more then it does now.
>>
>> Not in terms of bytes/watt-hour. Someone doing the same amount of data
>> transfer on the 3G model will have better battery life. Of course most
>> users will probably be doing a lot more web stuff once they get 3G,
>> and are willing to make the trade-off.
>
> Thats not what Jobs said when asked why was 3G not in the 1st round. He
> said 3G uses more battery then edge.

It does, if you're measuring by usage time rather than bytes.

> So one has to attach a battery sleeve to get pass the battery life flaw

Yes.

> ? So end's that sexy and slim quote that Jobs talks about.
> IF that were true about less connectors to address a POF then why do
> they offer user replacement batterys for there laptops ?

I suspect it's because it's much easier to make a reliable connector
with larger contacts, and a more robust retention device on a notebook.
I'm not saying what Apple did is good for the user. But if you look at
one of the major points of failure of small electronic devices it's
connectors and battery doors. How many users didn't buy an iPhone
primarily because of the battery life?

> I've owned cell phones for over 10 years. I've never had a failure due
> to replacement of a battery. Thats Apple talk for screwing the end user.
> To have to send it to apple to get it replaced when it's dead is just
> more $$ for apple. And at some point in time it will need to be
> replaced. There just wanting the user to buy a new phone.

Yeah, well there are plenty of iPhone battery replacement kits. For $14
you can get a battery and the tool and instructions.

"http://app.infopia.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/SFV/31370/vpid/4470367/vpcsid/0/rid/126325"

>> Hopefully the 3G model will also add tethering capability, and it can
>> be powered by the big battery in the notebook.

> AT&T is not going to allow that under there all you can use iPhone plan.
> You can already use the usb plug to charge the iPhone. Plug it into any
> usb port and it charges.

How much is the 3G data plan going to cost? Will there be a plan that
allows tethering? This isn't known yet.

I'm not an iPhone fanboi. I wouldn't buy one because of several feature
limitations, but the lack of a battery door isn't one of them.