Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote:
> What about the way that applications can
> make changes to the Windows firewall without the user knowing?
If the computer is compromized already, no filtering software will
help to secure this computer any more.
And, _every_ "Personal Firewall" has the same problem. You claimed
that Zonealarm would be better, so this couldn't be your argument then.
> What
> about the way that Windows Firewall is easier to mess up than any other
> firewall on the market
Please explain. Do you have a technical argument for this at last?
> > > even Zone Alarm, if installed before
> > > connecting the network cable, is better than anything MS has presented.
> > And this is, what you're claiming (everytime), and are refusing to
> > offer one single argument for.
> What refusing
I'm missing your argument for that. I'm asking it now for the last time:
WHY - and explain in detail, please - do you think that? What exactly is
worse with Windows-Firewall compared to Zonearalm in a technical view?
What problems does Zonealarm have, I explained in detail already - if you
forgot this, I can send you the references to re-read.
Please explain this now, or just shut up for your own sake - you're getting
more and more ridiculous arguing without _any_ facts.
> you're refusing to see the logic and technical details.
> Have you ever used a personal firewall other than Windows SP2 firewall?
I'm not using the Windows-Firewall and I'm not using a "Personal Firewall".
Why should I?
We tested both _in_ _detail_, though. The testing report for the "Personal
Firewalls" is here:
http://www.dingens.org/pf-bericht/bericht.html
A lecture about this topic, you'll find here:
http://www.ulm.ccc.de/chaos-seminar/personal-firewalls/
Unfortunately for many of the people who are reading here, this all is in
German language. Perhaps we will find someone to translate in future.
But just ask one of your friends (if you have any), who are understanding
German language, to translate.
More about the CCC you're finding here BTW:
https://www.ccc.de
VB.
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einer Atombome. (MAC filtering is protecting against "hackers" like newsprint
is protecting against a nuclear bomb)
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