On Jul 27, 10:22*pm, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:14:45 -0700 (PDT), m...@sushi.com wrote:
> >What I was hoping this thread was going to cover is quality of DSL
> >modems.
>
> Ummm... this is a wireless newsgroup. *We don't do no stinkin wires.
> You'll probably do better in a DSL harware newsgroups.
>
> Reviews of some DSL modems (in UK).
> <http://www.thinkbroadband.com/reviews.html>
>
> The real difference between the various modems is in the DSL chipsets.
> <http://www.chipweb.de/dsl/index.php?menu=1&level=9>
> Sure, there are problems with flaky router sections, lack of fail safe
> timers, and lousy firmware, but those come and go as firmware gets
> updated. *However, if you're after connection reliability, stability,
> uptime, and speed, it's the chipset that makes it happen.
>
> Incidentally, I have not seen a DSL modem that hasn't hung at some
> point. *The causes are usually power glitches. *A UPS does not seem to
> help. *I even have two that are running on battery power. *They both
> hang. *I have some on mountain top sites, where the power and RF
> environment certainly doesn't help.
>
> My ill considered opinion is that the Ti chipset is the best of bunch.
> Westel uses Ti. *Speedstream uses Alcatel, which tends to hang, but
> otherwise works ok. *2-wire uses STMicroelectronics Ascot DSL chipset,
> whcih seems to work quite well. *I mostly like it because of the nifty
> diagnostics. *I don't get many hangs with 2-wire routers, but I'm
> starting to see some failures, especially the wall warts.
>
> >It's an analog world, dammit! Quality is not a feature checklist.
>
> Maybe. *However if you're in marketing, it's a digital world. *There's
> only one digital parameter of interest:
> * 1 = customer buys the product
> * 0 = customer does not buy the product.
> There are no states in between.
>
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Asa you probably know, the wall-wart is farmed out to China. It is the
one piece that could get a company in serious trouble since it
connects to the AC line. Best to let some other vendor deal with the
wrongful death lawsuit. Oh wait, sue a Chinese company. That won't
happen.

The broadband review site didn't really have want I want. I'd like to
see bit error testing at different SNR. Yes, I ask for too much.