"Jim" <nopenotnow.com> wrote in message
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>>can they see themselves? both directly and by the network?
>
> I think you have something here. The wireless machine CAN see the
> wired machine, but it can't see itself!!!
>
> Suggestions?
>

well, you have it narrowed way down, not the wired network machine, nor the
router, nor the hardware part of the wireless machine, so it appears it's a
network/software problem on the wireless machine.... (you can see the other
machines on your network, but not yourself)

two suggestions, on the wireless machine, on your start menu do you have a
connect to?or in your control panel select network connections, and just do
a 'set up home or small office network"... sounds silly, will whack any
intentional changes, but it restores/redoes anything that may have gotten
whacky, and gives you a known point.... and you can always apply any
intentional changes again... What good is keeping changes in if it doesn't
work in the first place?

does your wireless machine have a wired port? if so, can you plug it in
temporarily (for testing, that will force it to use different stuff, but let
you know if it is the network itself or just the wireless network stuff) ...

will narrow the prob down even further (ie wireless/network/driver stuff on
the wireless machine) trick now is to determine if it is wired/wireless/ or
network problems, much easier to fix when you narrow down the problem to one
thing to focus on....

as always, good luck, and hope this debugging stuff doesn't drive you over
the edge, but if it's getting close, look at alt.suicide.... trust me, puter
problems are nothing compared to what they face, and most people like the
"it could be worse" comparison to their own problems.....