On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 09:37:39 GMT, Hairy One Kenobi wrote:

> "traveler" <noreply@nym.alias.net> wrote in message
> news:tb5rm1duccaseg2q4iecmndgr10dii7a7m@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 17:56:18 +1300, "Max Burke" <mlvburke@xxxxxxxxx.nz>
>
> <snip>
>
>> If you would like to try something that's more than a "revealer",
>> that can safely remove the root kit for you, if in fact you want to
>> remove it rather than keeping it, that's a safe product and produced
>> by a leading computer security company, that's free to use until
>> January 1st, 2006, then go to the general technology section at:
>> www.privacy.li/forum
>>
>> Or just keep what you have, just don't delete anyhting.
>
> ..or just go to Windows Update and run the Malicious Software Removal Tool.
>
> Limited, and less capable than (say) a typical 3rd-party AV (which is why I
> don't personally use it). But utterly free.
>
> If *I* were ever to locate a rootkit on one of my PCs, then the first stop
> would be my AV provider.. after all, removing nasties is what I pay them
> for. And what they do for a living.
>
> Oh, and most vendors put out free worm removal tools, even to
> non-subscribers. I daresay a bit of a rummage through the appropriate web
> site would do the same for known rootkits.
>
> Not that I'm dissing a tool that I haven't even looked at, of course...

The reason ant-virus products don't catch it is because it's not a virus,
or a trojan. It's software of sorts designed to hide something like a
trojan. Windows removal tool and even the best virus/trojan scanner
wouldn't find it, you need a specialized product like the F- Secure to
detect it, and just as important to SAFELY remove it without any hassles,

Regards,