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Old 08-05-2006, 06:02 AM
Jeff Liebermann
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Default Re: wireless router capable of being an access point client

On 4 Aug 2006 16:49:00 -0700, "Spacey Spade" <spaceygum@hotpop.com>
wrote:

>Are there any wireless router models out there can be both a wireless
>access point client on the NAT's WAN side, and also have its own access
>point?


No. The wireless access point section is always connected to the LAN
side of the router.

>I'm looking for this as an alternative to a wireless bridge connected
>to a wireless router, since wireless bridges tend to be proprietary
>(only work with their own kind).


There are some wireless devices that have two radios inside a single
package. They're fairly specialized and used mostly for mesh
networks. One radio would be used for the the backhaul to the ISP by
bridging, while the other radio would act as an access point for
clients. However, I would advise against trying to do this in a
single box. The two radios will need to be on seperate channels and
with everything in one box, there just isn't enough isolation to
prevent mutual interference.

There are several ways to do what I guess you wanna do:

1. Conventional wireless router connected to wireless client bridge.
The bridge need only bridge one MAC address so any "game adapter" will
work. The other end of the link is a wireless access point or
wireless router. The problem with this method is that you might end
up with double NAT if you have two routers.

2. Conventional wireless access point conntected to wireless client
bridge. This one needs to be a wireless client bridge that can bridge
more than one MAC address (due to lack of an NAT router in the
system). Something like a WRT54G with DD-WRT firmware in client mode
will work. The other end of the link is a conventional wireless
router with NAT.

3. Conventional wireless access point connected to a wireless
transparent bridge. The other end of the link is an identical
wireless transparent bridge. A pair of WAP54G radios in bridge mode
will work. If there is a router, it should be at the far end of the
link.

4. WDS bridge. A WDS bridge can simultaneously act as an access
point and a transparent bridge in a single box. The other end of the
link is an identical WDS bridge radio. A pair of WRT54G wireless
routers with DD-WRT firmware should work. If there is a router, it
will be at the far end of the link. This is nice because it only uses
one radio. The down side is that the maximum speed of wireless to
wireless traffic through a WDS bridge is reduced by 50%. This is not
a problem if you're sharing a broadband connection, but can be a
problem with higher speed LANs.

There are other combinations and mutations of the aformentioned that
will also work, depending on your budget and creativity.

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