"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:d7igc2t6ikbrcjmp1iq00eahjm27sbq2bq@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:06:50 GMT, "visions of effty"
> <impeach_the_shrub@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>
>>If you want to talk about conspiracies let's talk about M$ refusing
>>to ship OEM disks with new PCs within the last 6 or 7 years!
>
> Whatever gave you that idea? I've seen plenty that had one.
> Most were your bog-standard OEM XP Home. It costs a couple
> bucks more though, so OEMs will save that $$ when they
> can... too few people think to check that before ordering,
> apparently.


Right. I have too. It seems to be losing popularity. I exagerate.


>>That drives me
>>nuts! You get an OS with a very limited capacity for upgrades, which
>>really
>>helps devalue your hardware in the long run.
>
> Huh? It's still XP, for all it's good and bad aspects, and
> should have the necessary XP files on the drive to
> facilitate PNP.
>
>>Essentially, you can't
>>"transfer" your license to the "new" computer. The only work around is
>>paying an arm and a leg for OEM discs.
>
> You couldn't transfer your license to a new computer if you
> had the OEM discs, that's what an OEM disc is- non
> transferrible (to another system).


Yeah, but in reality it's easier with the OEM discs. Am I getting the
terminology wrong? I don't think of Restore Discs as OEM, but I'm certain
that they are. Except the ones you make yourself. I wouldn't think of
those that way, just because you can make changes before you make them.


> HOWEVER, you are licensed to use the version of XP that came
> with the system, regardless of whether it was on an OEM CD
> or a restore disc. The license is not tied to the media, if
> you want to use an alternate installation source it just has
> to be same version- accept the system's license key.


Well, I know. You used to be able to send $10 bucks in and get the OS on
media too. Not anymore. Right?


>>It keeps you in the market for a new
>>budget system with the same shitty pre-installed OS. It's like paying for
>>something you don't get.
>
> Well you do save $ on that OEM system, and they have that
> practically worthless support, and replacement/warranty...
> so you are getting what you paid for, and if you don't like
> what you paid for then of course it makes no sense to pay
> for it.


Right. Right.


>>I'd use it as an excuse to get a nice, hacked version of XP and call it
>>even.
>
> There is no need to hack the OS, the system's license
> doesn't just disappear... but, it IS an OEM license, not
> full so it is for that system only.


Right, right. I know, but how do you upgrade a motherboard, and transfer
the license? You don't. Not anymore. They tie that to the machine, don't
they? New motherbard = new system. No?

(hic!)

Cheers!

~e.