On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:23:15 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Citizen Bob)
wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:56:35 GMT, "George Hester"
><hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>This is quite strange. For one you want to make sure both drives on that
>>channel are cable select.
>
>I have no choice based on my setup. I have two removable drive bays,
>one on ch.0 master and the other on ch.0 slave. I have no choice but
>to implement CS - otherwise I would have to open the tray and change
>the jumper everytime I switched drawers.


i don't think you understand.

It was obvious that is what you "wanted" to do, but since
that has been tried and doesn't work, what remains is to
find out of anything works (ignoring for the moment, what
you ultimately wanted to do). Towards that end, it might be
useful to know if the drives behave properly with the
traditional master/slave jumpering.


>
>>For another the fact the op sys hangs we need to
>>know when this happens. Does the machine ever get out of the POST?
>
>I said Win2K hangs. It gets out of POST and reports the existence of
>the drive. That tells me it is not a cable select problem.

Not necessarily.


>
>>This is
>>usually an indication there is a loss of the op sys recognizing the new
>>hardware. That I suspect is the issue.
>
>Yes, I agree. Now, why is that the case? I got the drive from my son
>and it works with XP.

Son was not trying to do what you are, correct?
Set up the drive exactly as son did, see if it works like
that first before proceeding to something more advanced.
This quite specifically means not using any removable caddy
too, for the time being the only goal should be to see if
drive works under any circumstances at all.



>
>>If it works in XP then is should work in Win2000.
>
>You would think so, but I thought I read where there is some
>incompatibilty issue.

.... and you want to keep this information a secret?

It should work.


>
>>I would just try again changinhg Master to last connection on Cable
>>(No Cable Select) and put the slave on the first connector (No Cable
>>Select). Try it and see it is not a major overhaul.
>
>I don't understand what you just said. I have said repeatedly that I
>must implement CS on the IDE connection. I have no choice. I cannot
>hard-wire master vs slave.

You don't seem to understand that for the moment it is
irrelevant what you want to do - first it needs to be
determined if the drive shows signs of life in any way,
shape or form, and if it does not, we have then ruled out
jumper settings and use of the removable caddy. Also,
connect it alone, without the other drive connected at all.


>
>I'll bet the problem is that Win2K/SP4 does not have an appropriate
>driver for that drive so it hangs.

No, IDE hardware is standardized and there is no driver
necessary.


>Seagate crap isn't worth the powder
>to blow it to Hell, so I really don't want the piece of shit in my
>computer to begin with. But my son offered it, and so I am obliged to
>try it. Actually I am glad it does not work.

Good, then we're done.