On 06/05/11 11:47 AM, Paul Miner wrote:
> On Fri, 06 May 2011 10:43:58 -0700, jcdill<jcdill.lists@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 06/05/11 10:36 AM, Paul Miner wrote:
>>
>>> It's interesting that your position doesn't seem to extend equally in
>>> the other direction, as many have already pointed out. Why should
>>> Steven's limited experiences be allowed to be erroneously applied to
>>> the country while the multiple experiences of others are discounted or
>>> even disregarded?
>>>
>>> If you're going to try to play the middle ground, at least pretend to
>>> be a little more impartial.
>>
>> I've repeatedly said that I believe the truth lies in the middle. I
>> believe that both sides are either exaggerating the ease or difficulty
>> of finding wifi in their area, or that their area is an outlier, or both.
>
> The truth doesn't lie in the middle because there is no single truth.
> The truth is different for everyone, depending on many factors. That's
> why many of us have a problem with Steven applying his "truth" to the
> entire country. He should stick to talking about 'his' truth, not
> 'the' truth. He doesn't speak for me. His experiences are not my
> experiences, not by a long shot.

When I'm talking about "the truth" I'm talking about how it works for
"most people" - a group of people that is likely not well represented by
anyone here. We are all outliers (fact, since we use USENET). The
"average" person doesn't live where we live or have our usage patterns.

>> What I'm arguing about in trying to determine *where* the truth lies, is
>> that we can't have a useful discussion on this topic if people keep
>> making up "quotes" about what the other side said or claimed. I suggest
>> everyone stick to actual quotes so we can have a useful discussion.
>
> No one has to make anything up. Steven puts his foot in his mouth on a
> regular basis when he makes claims that are completely unsupported by
> facts.

I agree that no one has to make anything up. But I've see a lot of made
up quotes attributed to Steven in this thread. Since you don't need to
make anything up - stop doing it! It doesn't help.

jc