"Dennis Ferguson" <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:slrnegoupg.be.dcferguson@dhcp-floor2-sw-44.juniper.net...
> On 2006-09-16, heartlock@linkearth.com <heartlock@linkearth.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:28:41 GMT, John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 22:30:47 GMT, "Dennis A. Vitali" <vitali@snet.net>
>>>wrote in <rSbxg.55622$VE1.25182@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> :
>>>
>>>>When I upgraded my old tdma phone to a new razr I kept the home 50 plan
>>>>by
>>>>not going to a store , but using the 800 number for cingular, complained
>>>>three times, then they activated my razr.
>>>
>>>The SIM was activated, not the phone -- GSM phones don't need to be
>>>activated.
>>
>> Sure they do. The IEMI numbers are turned off when they come from the
>> factory. Just in case someone breaks into the store and steals a bunch
>> of
>> phones, the IEMI number was not entered into the system so the phones
>> won't
>> work. The rep has to activate or enter the IEMI number into the system
>> before ht phones works. So, GSM phones have to be activated before they
>> work. NO!?
>
> No. The reason they record the IMEI number when they sell you the
> phone is so, when the phone is returned for warrantee service, they
> can determine when, and by whom, the phone was purchased. The phone
> would work fine even if they didn't record the IMEI, but you might
> have difficulty getting warrantee work done if the phone broke.
>
> I use a phone that I purchased overseas, and while the store I
> bought it from probably entered the IMEI in their system for warrantee
> purposes I am very sure that system is in no way connected to any system
> Cingular uses. Yet, when I bought Cingular service, they just handed my
> the SIM card and paid no attention to the phone. I didn't buy the
> phone from them, so the IMEI was uninteresting to them.
>
> Dennis Ferguson
>

You don't have to call Cingular for anything but the insurance.

I've bought 2 v400, 1 V551, 3 Razrs and 2 Razr V3i off ebay, I'm sure the
seller didn't call Cingular to activate them and I know I didn't.

Of these phones all but the V400s are in service with Cingular today and
Cingular still hasn't been called on any of them
...
bamp