LazerW@gmail.com hath wroth:

>i wonder if bored teenagers are really that good.

Well, how would you like your wireless access point converted into a
non-TCP/IP game hub to connect a bunch of 13 year olds in the
neighborhood? I couldn't even see their traffic because none of it
went to the internet. That's exactly what they managed to do a few
years ago with my access point. As John Navas mentioned, it's not
their abilities, but their access to scripted tools.

>i mean, i am sure some of them are but i imagine most ppl probabaly
>dont know how to do stuff like that.

Well, perhaps another example. My office is near the end of a dead
end road near the San Lorenzo River. The local deadbeats, vagabonds,
winos, bums, homeless, etc tend to illegally park their campers near
the turnaround. Despite the trappings of poverty, many of these urban
campers have laptops with wireless (probably stolen). They find my
office access point and proceed to use it for their personal VoIP
phone system. Initially, I had the access point setup for public
access (no encryption) but that became a problem as too many of them
were using it for massive downloads. So, I turned on WEP64 encryption
(because I had a bunch of Orinoco Silver cards that would only do
WEP64). About a week later, they had the encryption key and were back
in business. It was interesting watching them break in. So, here we
have a class of individuals, with obvious mental and emotional
problems, with supposidly no resources, cracking WEP keys.

I switched to WPA and ended the problem.

Incidentally, you might want to get the shift key on your keyboard
repaired.

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