<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:9i3vd1h7uvbbfv9v5m1unhrfnoic6fqrb3@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:14:47 GMT, "r_mervart"
> <r_mervart@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>If it is a fixed non-reducible monthly charge then it is what would
>>normally
>>be understood as a rental whether it includes certain types of call
>>without
>>further charge or not.

> No you are wrong if I took what you are saying above to be correct
> then our city transport operators are charging bus rental when they
> say I can travel anywhere in the city at any time of the day or night
> for a fixed monthly fee.
> Now I have a choice I can either buy the journeys in bulk at a very
> much reduced rate or I can pay per journey and it is exactly the same
> with Vonage and many other phone companies with the exception of BT
> who clearly state their top package includes line RENTAL and ALL
> calls. You cannot rent a line from Vonage has they have no lines to
> rent .

Are you telling me that I can have a number from Vonage and not pay a
monthly charge but can use the same system as Sipgate and add credit like
a PAYG mobile..? If so I can't see it on their website anywhere.

If it's a charge I have to pay in order to use the service then it's
rental in all but name.

Ivor